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Estimate Complexity

Grok 3's response to the Tests an AI's ability to make educated estimates based on technical knowledge

Grok 3
March 1, 2025
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Prompt

Estimate the total number of FLOPs required to train GPT-3 without searching online. Explain your reasoning step by step.

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To estimate the total number of FLOPs (Floating Point Operations) required to train GPT-3, we’ll need to make some reasonable assumptions based on what’s generally known about large language models like GPT-3, its architecture, and typical training procedures. GPT-3, developed by OpenAI, is a massive model with 175 billion parameters, and while exact training details aren’t fully public, we can piece together an estimate using standard practices in machine learning.

Step 1: Understand the Key Components

The number of FLOPs to train a model depends on:

  • Number of parameters (P): GPT-3 has 175 billion parameters.
  • Training dataset size (D): The number of tokens the model is trained on.
  • Number of training steps (S): How many times the model processes the data (related to epochs and batch size).
  • FLOPs per parameter update: How many operations are performed per parameter per token.

Step 2: Estimate FLOPs per Forward and Backward Pass

For transformer models like GPT-3, training involves both a forward pass (computing predictions) and a backward pass (computing gradients). A common heuristic in the field is that:

  • A single forward pass through a dense neural network layer requires about 2 FLOPs per parameter per token (multiply and add for each weight).
  • The backward pass typically takes about twice as many FLOPs as the forward pass due to gradient computations, so roughly 4 FLOPs per parameter per token.
  • Total: ~6 FLOPs per parameter per token for one full training step (forward + backward).

For GPT-3 with 175 billion parameters, processing one token requires: [ 6 imes 175 imes 10^9 = 1.05 imes 10^{12} ext{ FLOPs per token} ]

Step 3: Estimate the Training Dataset Size

GPT-3 was reportedly trained on a massive corpus, often cited as hundreds of billions of tokens. Let’s assume 300 billion tokens, a plausible figure based on discussions about large language model datasets (e.g., Common Crawl, books, and other sources). This is the total number of tokens processed during training, factoring in how data is sampled over epochs.

Step 4: Calculate Total FLOPs for One Pass

If the model processes 300 billion tokens once, the total FLOPs would be: [ 1.05 imes 10^{12} ext{ FLOPs/token} imes 300 imes 10^9 ext{ tokens} = 3.15 imes 10^{23} ext{ FLOPs} ] This assumes one full pass through the dataset, but training typically involves multiple passes or iterations over the data, adjusted by batch size and optimization.

Step 5: Adjust for Training Dynamics

Training isn’t a single pass—it involves multiple updates to converge. The number of training steps depends on:

  • Batch size (B): GPT-3 likely used a large batch size (e.g., 3.2 million tokens, as seen in some large-scale models).
  • Total tokens processed: For optimization, models process tokens multiple times. A rule of thumb is that total tokens processed ≈ 2–3× the dataset size, accounting for multiple epochs or sampling.

Let’s assume the model effectively processes 900 billion tokens (3× the dataset size) over training. Then: [ 1.05 imes 10^{12} ext{ FLOPs/token} imes 900 imes 10^9 ext{ tokens} = 9.45 imes 10^{23} ext{ FLOPs} ]

Step 6: Account for Model Architecture Specifics

GPT-3 is a sparse transformer in some variants (e.g., earlier GPT models used sparsity), but the 175B version is dense. The 6 FLOPs/parameter/token heuristic holds for dense models. We’re not factoring in optimizations like mixed-precision training (FP16), which reduces compute slightly but doesn’t change the order of magnitude significantly.

Step 7: Final Estimate

Based on this reasoning, the total FLOPs to train GPT-3 is approximately: [ 9.45 imes 10^{23} ext{ FLOPs} ] or roughly ( 10^{24} ) FLOPs when rounded for simplicity.

Reasoning Check

  • Comparison to known models: Smaller models like BERT (110M parameters, ~10B tokens) require ~10^19 FLOPs. Scaling to GPT-3’s size (175B parameters, ~900B tokens) suggests a 10,000× increase, aligning with ~10^23–10^24 FLOPs.
  • Hardware context: Training GPT-3 took months on thousands of GPUs. A V100 GPU performs ~10^14 FLOPs/second; 10^24 FLOPs over 3 months (~10^7 seconds) with 10,000 GPUs is plausible.

Conclusion

The total FLOPs required to train GPT-3 is estimated at approximately ( 10^{24} ) FLOPs. This is a rough estimate, but it aligns with the scale of compute expected for a model of this size and training complexity.

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Provider
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Released
2025-02-18
Size
XLARGE
Parameters
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Context
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