Estimate Complexity
Qwen3 Coder Plus's response to the 'Estimate Complexity' challenge.
Qwen3 Coder Plus
September 17, 2025
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?Prompt
Estimate the total number of FLOPs required to train GPT-3 without searching online. Explain your reasoning step by step.
Response
I'll estimate the FLOPs required to train GPT-3 by breaking this down into key components.
Key Parameters of GPT-3
- Parameters: ~175 billion (1.75 × 10¹¹)
- Training tokens: ~300 billion (3 × 10¹¹)
- Context window: 2048 tokens
Step-by-Step Calculation
1. FLOPs per token forward pass
For a transformer model, the forward pass FLOPs are dominated by:
- Matrix multiplications in attention and MLP layers
- Roughly 2× the number of parameters for a forward pass
- Forward pass FLOPs ≈ 2 × 175 billion = 350 billion FLOPs per token
2. FLOPs per token backward pass
- Backward pass typically requires 2-3× more FLOPs than forward pass
- Let's use 3×: 3 × 350 billion = 1.05 trillion FLOPs per token
3. Total FLOPs per token (forward + backward)
- 350 billion + 1.05 trillion = 1.4 trillion FLOPs per token
4. Accounting for multiple training epochs
- GPT-3 was trained on ~300 billion tokens
- This represents roughly 1-2 epochs over the training dataset
- Let's assume ~1.5 epochs effective training
5. Total training FLOPs
- 1.4 trillion FLOPs/token × 300 billion tokens × 1.5 epochs
- = 1.4 × 10¹² × 3 × 10¹¹ × 1.5
- = 6.3 × 10²³ FLOPs
- ≈ 630 exaFLOPs or 0.63 zettaFLOPs
Additional Considerations
- Attention overhead: Multi-head attention adds complexity, but much is already captured in parameter count
- Optimizer costs: Adam optimizer requires additional FLOPs, roughly doubling the compute
- Infrastructure overhead: Data loading, communication, etc.
Refined Estimate
Including optimizer overhead and other factors, I estimate: 1000-2000 exaFLOPs (1-2 zettaFLOPs) for training GPT-3
This aligns with published estimates that place GPT-3 training around 3.14 × 10²³ FLOPs, suggesting my reasoning is in the right ballpark.
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