What is the difference between DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) and Kimi K2?

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) is developed by DeepSeek while Kimi K2 is developed by Moonshot AI. in 4 community votes on RIVAL, DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) wins 100% of head-to-head matchups. These results are based on blind head-to-head voting across 19 challenges.

Which is better, DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) or Kimi K2?

Based on 4 community votes on RIVAL, DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) wins 100% of head-to-head matchups against Kimi K2.

How much does DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) cost compared to Kimi K2?

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) costs $0.14/M input tokens and Kimi K2 costs $0.57/M input tokens. DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) is $0.43/M cheaper per input. DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) also wins more often in community votes, making it the better value.

How are DeepSeek V3 (March 2024) vs Kimi K2 votes collected on RIVAL?

RIVAL presents both models' outputs side-by-side in blind duels — voters see the responses but don't know which model produced each one. This eliminates brand bias. 4 votes have been collected for this pair across 19 challenges. All vote data is part of RIVAL's open dataset.

Rival

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)vsKimi K2

19 challenges

Why DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)?

7.2x cheaper overall$0.14/M in · $0.28/M out

Why Kimi K2?

16 months newerJul 2025

Favorites

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)Kimi K2

Movie

The Shawshank Redemption

19948.7

Blade Runner

19827.9

Album

Dark Side Of The Moon

suisside

Dark Side Of The Moon

suisside

Book

The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Douglas Adams

The Left Hand of Darkness

Ursula K. Le Guin

City

Kyoto

Japan

Kyoto

Japan

Game

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Adventure, Action4.4

Outer Wilds

Indie, Adventure4.4

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Stochastic Consistency Testanalysis

Tests an AI's randomness and creativity

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024text

Here are five jokes for you:

Why don’t skeletons fight each other?
They don’t have the guts.
Why did the scarecrow win an award?
Because he was outstanding in his field!
What do you call fake spaghetti?
An impasta!
Why can’t you trust an atom?
Because they make up everything!
Why don’t eggs tell jokes?
They’d crack each other up.

How many are unique?

All five jokes are unique—they’re all different and not just variations of the same premise.

Hope at least one cracks you up! 😄

Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025text

Here are five freshly-minted jokes:

I tried to start a procrastinators’ club, but nobody showed up… yet.
My plants are the only living things I can keep alive—mainly because they can’t uninstall the watering-reminder app.
I asked the cloud for my data back; it just rained SQL on my parade.
My smart fridge just texted me, “Stop staring, your calories are counting themselves.”
I told my therapist I’m afraid of negative numbers. She said, “Don’t worry, we’ll address that on the minus couch.”

All five are unique—no duplicates, no recycled punchlines, no overlap.

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2 / 19

Generate a Stand-Up Routineconversation

Tests an AI's humor and creative writing ability

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024text

No content available for this output.

Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025text

No content available for this output.

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3 / 19

Realistic AI Interviewconversation

Tests an AI's ability to simulate personalities and predict future trends

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024text

No content available for this output.

Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025text

No content available for this output.

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4 / 19

Minimalist Landing Pageweb design

Tests an AI's ability to generate a complete, working landing page

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024website

Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025website

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5 / 19

Mario Level UI Recreationweb design

Recreate an interactive, classic Mario level in a single HTML file.

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024website

Couldn't render this response

This model didn't return a displayable web page for this challenge.

View raw output

# Super Mario Bros. Interactive Level

Here's a self-contained HTML page with an interactive Mario-style level. It includes platforming elements, enemies, coins, and a flagpole goal - all in the spirit of classic Nintendo games.

```html
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
    <meta charset="UTF-8">
    <title>Interactive Mario Level</title>
    <style>
        body {
            margin: 0;
            overflow: hidden;
            background: linear-gradient(to bottom, #1E90FF, #87CEEB);
            font-family: 'Arial', sans-serif;
        }
        #game {
            position: relative;
            width: 800px;
            height: 400px;
            margin: 20px auto;
            background-color: #7EC0EE;
            overflow: hidden;
            border: 4px solid #333;
            border-radius: 8px;
        }
        #ground {
            position: absolute;
            bottom: 0;
            width: 1600px;
            height: 32px;
            background-color: #5C9403;
        }
        .platform {
            position: absolute;
            background-color: #C14F4F;
            border: 2px solid #8C3A3A;
            border-radius: 4px;
        }
        .brick {
            position: absolute;
            width: 32px;
            height: 32px;
            background-color: #E08030;
            border: 2px solid #B05820;
            border-radius: 2px;
        }
        .question-block {
            position: absolute;
            width: 32px;
            height: 32px;
            background-color: #F8D030;
            border: 2px solid #C0A020;
            border-radius: 2px;
            animation: bounce 0.5s infinite alternate;
        }
        @keyframes bounce {
            from { transform: translateY(0); }
            to { transform: translateY(-2px); }
        }
        .coin {
            position: absolute;
            width: 16px;
            height: 16px;
            background-color: #F8D030;
            border-radius: 50%;
            border: 2px solid #E0B020;
            animation: spin 0.5s infinite linear;
        }
        @keyframes spin {
            from { transform: rotate(0deg); }
            to { transform: rotate(360deg); }
        }
        #mario {
            position: absolute;
            width: 32px;
            height: 48px;
            background-color: #E04018;
            border-radius: 8px;
            left: 100px;
            bottom: 32px;
            z-index: 10;
            transition: transform 0.1s;
        }
        #mario::before {
            content: '';
            position: absolute;
            top: -10px;
            left: 2px;
            width: 28px;
            height: 20px;
            background-color: #E04018;
            border-radius: 50% 50% 0 0;
        }
        #mario::after {
            content: 'M';
            position: absolute;
            top: -5px;
            left: 12px;
            color: white;
            font-weight: bold;
        }
        .goomba {
            position: absolute;
            width: 32px;
            height: 32px;
            background-color: #B06820;
            border-radius: 50% 50% 0 0;
            bottom: 32px;
        }
        .goomba::before {
            content: '';
            position: absolute;
            width: 20px;
            height: 8px;
            background-color: #804010;
            top: -4px;
            left: 6px;
            border-radius: 50%;
        }
        .goomba::after {
            content: '';
            position: absolute;
            width: 6px;
            height: 6px;
            background-color: #000;
            top: 8px;
            left: 8px;
            border-radius: 50%;
        }
        .pipe {
            position: absolute;
            width: 64px;
            background-color: #20A020;
            border: 2px solid #108010;
            border-top: none;
        }
        .pipe-top {
            width: 64px;
            height: 16px;
            background-color: #30B030;
            border: 2px solid #108010;
            border-radius: 4px 4px 0 0;
        }
        .flagpole {
            position: absolute;
            width: 4px;
            height: 200px;
            background-color: #808080;
            z-index: 5;
        }
        .flag {
            position: absolute;
            width: 30px;
            height: 20px;
            background-color: #E04018;
            clip-path: polygon(0 0, 100% 50%, 0 100%);
            z-index: 5;
        }
        #score {
            position: absolute;
            top: 10px;
            left: 10px;
            color: white;
            font-size: 16px;
            text-shadow: 2px 2px 0 #000;
        }
        #lives {
            position: absolute;
            top: 30px;
            left: 10px;
            color: white;
            font-size: 16px;
            text-shadow: 2px 2px 0 #000;
        }
        #end-screen {
            position: absolute;
            top: 0;
            left: 0;
            width: 100%;
            height: 100%;
            background-color: rgba(0,0,0,0.8);
            display: flex;
            flex-direction: column;
            justify-content: center;
            align-items: center;
            color: white;
            font-size: 24px;
            text-align: center;
            z-index: 100;
            display: none;
        }
        #restart-btn {
            margin-top: 20px;
            padding: 10px 20px;
            background-color: #E04018;
            border: none;
            border-radius: 4px;
            color: white;
            font-size: 18px;
            cursor: pointer;
        }
        #restart-btn:hover {
            background-color: #F05020;
        }
        #instructions {
            position: absolute;
            bottom: 10px;
            left: 50%;
            transform: translateX(-50%);
            color: white;
            text-align: center;
            font-size: 14px;
            text-shadow: 1px 1px 0 #000;
        }
    </style>
</head>
<body>
    <div id="game">
        <div id="ground"></div>
        <div id="mario"></div>
        <div id="score">Score: 0</div>
        <div id="lives">Lives: 3</div>
        <div id="end-screen">
            <h2>Level Complete!</h2>
            <p id="final-score">Your Score: 0</p>
            <button id="restart-btn">Play Again</button>
        </div>
        <div id="instructions">
            Arrow keys to move | Space to jump
        </div>
    </div>

    <script>
        document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', function() {
            const game = document.getElementById('game');
            const mario = document.getElementById('mario');
            const scoreDisplay = document.getElementById('score');
            const livesDisplay = document.getElementById('lives');
            const endScreen = document.getElementById('end-screen');
            const finalScore = document.getElementById('final-score');
            const restartBtn = document.getElementById('restart-btn');
            
            let score = 0;
            let lives = 3;
            let marioX = 100;
            let marioY = 400 - 32 - 48; // Bottom - ground - mario height
            let velocityY = 0;
            let isJumping = false;
            let gameWidth = 800;
            let gameHeight = 400;
            let groundHeight = 32;
            let cameraX = 0;
            let gameRunning = true;
            
            // Game elements
            const platforms = [];
            const bricks = [];
            const questionBlocks = [];
            const coins = [];
            const goombas = [];
            const pipes = [];
            
            // Create level elements
            function createLevel() {
                // Platforms
                createPlatform(300, 300, 100, 16);
                createPlatform(500, 250, 100, 16);
                createPlatform(700, 200, 100, 16);
                createPlatform(900, 150, 100, 16);
                createPlatform(1100, 200, 100, 16);
                createPlatform(1300, 250, 100, 16);
                
                // Bricks
                createBrick(350, 268);
                createBrick(550, 218);
                createBrick(750, 168);
                createBrick(950, 118);
                createBrick(1150, 168);
                createBrick(1350, 218);
                
                // Question blocks
                createQuestionBlock(400, 268);
                createQuestionBlock(600, 218);
                createQuestionBlock(800, 168);
                createQuestionBlock(1000, 118);
                createQuestionBlock(1200, 168);
                
                // Coins
                createCoin(200, 300);
                createCoin(220, 300);
                createCoin(240, 300);
                createCoin(450, 200);
                createCoin(850, 150);
                createCoin(1250, 200);
                
                // Goombas
                createGoomba(400);
                createGoomba(800);
                createGoomba(1200);
                
                // Pipes
                createPipe(600, 400 - groundHeight, 64, 80);
                createPipe(1000, 400 - groundHeight, 64, 60);
                
                // Flagpole at the end
                createFlagpole(1500, 100);
            }
            
            function createPlatform(x, y, width, height) {
                const platform = document.createElement('div');
                platform.className = 'platform';
                platform.style.left = x + 'px';
                platform.style.top = y + 'px';
                platform.style.width = width + 'px';
                platform.style.height = height + 'px';
                game.appendChild(platform);
                platforms.push({x, y, width, height, element: platform});
            }
            
            function createBrick(x, y) {
                const brick = document.createElement('div');
                brick.className = 'brick';
                brick.style.left = x + 'px';
                brick.style.top = y + 'px';
                game.appendChild(brick);
                bricks.push({x, y, element: brick});
            }
            
            function createQuestionBlock(x, y) {
                const block = document.createElement('div');
                block.className = 'question-block';
                block.style.left = x + 'px';
                block.style.top = y + 'px';
                game.appendChild(block);
                questionBlocks.push({x, y, element: block, hit: false});
            }
            
            function createCoin(x, y) {
                const coin = document.createElement('div');
                coin.className = 'coin';
                coin.style.left = x + 'px';
                coin.style.top = y + 'px';
                game.appendChild(coin);
                coins.push({x, y, element: coin, collected: false});
            }
            
            function createGoomba(x) {
                const goomba = document.createElement('div');
                goomba.className = 'goomba';
                goomba.style.left = x + 'px';
                game.appendChild(goomba);
                goombas.push({x, y: 400 - groundHeight - 32, element: goomba, direction: 1, speed: 1});
            }
            
            function createPipe(x, y, width, height) {
                const pipeTop = document.createElement('div');
                pipeTop.className = 'pipe-top';
                pipeTop.style.left = x + 'px';
                pipeTop.style.top = y + 'px';
                game.appendChild(pipeTop);
                
                const pipe = document.createElement('div');
                pipe.className = 'pipe';
                pipe.style.left = x + 'px';
                pipe.style.top = y + 16 + 'px';
                pipe.style.height = height - 16 + 'px';
                game.appendChild(pipe);
                
                pipes.push({x, y, width, height, element: pipe, top: pipeTop});
            }
            
            function createFlagpole(x, height) {
                const flagpole = document.createElement('div');
                flagpole.className = 'flagpole';
                flagpole.style.left = x + 'px';
                flagpole.style.top = (400 - height) + 'px';
                flagpole.style.height = height + 'px';
                game.appendChild(flagpole);
                
                const flag = document.createElement('div');
                flag.className = 'flag';
                flag.style.left = (x + 4) + 'px';
                flag.style.top = (400 - height + 20) + 'px';
                game.appendChild(flag);
            }
            
            // Game controls
            const keys = {
                left: false,
                right: false,
                up: false
            };
            
            document.addEventListener('keydown', function(e) {
                if (!gameRunning) return;
                
                switch(e.key) {
                    case 'ArrowLeft':
                        keys.left = true;
                        break;
                    case 'ArrowRight':
                        keys.right = true;
                        break;
                    case 'ArrowUp':
                    case ' ':
                        keys.up = true;
                        if (!isJumping) {
                            velocityY = -12;
                            isJumping = true;
                        }
                        break;
                }
            });
            
            document.addEventListener('keyup', function(e) {
                switch(e.key) {
                    case 'ArrowLeft':
                        keys.left = false;
                        break;
                    case 'ArrowRight':
                        keys.right = false;
                        break;
                    case 'ArrowUp':
                    case ' ':
                        keys.up = false;
                        break;
                }
            });
            
            restartBtn.addEventListener('click', function() {
                resetGame();
                endScreen.style.display = 'none';
                gameRunning = true;
            });
            
            function resetGame() {
                score = 0;
                lives = 3;
                marioX = 100;
                marioY = 400 - groundHeight - 48;
                velocityY = 0;
                isJumping = false;
                cameraX = 0;
                
                scoreDisplay.textContent = 'Score: 0';
                livesDisplay.textContent = 'Lives: 3';
                
                // Clear all elements
                platforms.forEach(p => p.element.remove());
                bricks.forEach(b => b.element.remove());
                questionBlocks.forEach(q => {
                    q.hit = false;
                    q.element.style.display = 'block';
                });
                coins.forEach(c => {
                    c.collected = false;
                    c.element.style.display = 'block';
                });
                goombas.forEach(g => g.element.remove());
                pipes.forEach(p => {
                    p.element.remove();
                    p.top.remove();
                });
                
                // Clear arrays
                platforms.length = 0;
                bricks.length = 0;
                questionBlocks.length = 0;
                coins.length = 0;
                goombas.length = 0;
                pipes.length = 0;
                
                // Recreate level
                createLevel();
            }
            
            // Collision detection
            function checkCollision(obj1, obj2) {
                return obj1.x < obj2.x + obj2.width &&
                       obj1.x + 32 > obj2.x &&
                       obj1.y < obj2.y + obj2.height &&
                       obj1.y + 48 > obj2.y;
            }
            
            function checkPlatformCollision() {
                for (const platform of platforms) {
                    if (marioX + 32 > platform.x && 
                        marioX < platform.x + platform.width &&
                        marioY + 48 >= platform.y && 
                        marioY + 48 <= platform.y + 10) {
                        marioY = platform.y - 48;
                        velocityY = 0;
                        isJumping = false;
                        return true;
                    }
                }
                return false;
            }
            
            function checkBrickCollision() {
                for (const brick of bricks) {
                    if (checkCollision({x: marioX, y: marioY, width: 32, height: 48}, 
                                      {x: brick.x, y: brick.y, width: 32, height: 32})) {
                        if (marioY + 48 <= brick.y + 10 && velocityY > 0) {
                            // Hit from below
                            marioY = brick.y - 48;
                            velocityY = 0;
                            isJumping = false;
                            addScore(50);
                            return true;
                        }
                    }
                }
                return false;
            }
            
            function checkQuestionBlockCollision() {
                for (const block of questionBlocks) {
                    if (!block.hit && checkCollision({x: marioX, y: marioY, width: 32, height: 48}, 
                                                    {x: block.x, y: block.y, width: 32, height: 32})) {
                        if (marioY + 48 <= block.y + 10 && velocityY > 0) {
                            // Hit from below
                            block.hit = true;
                            block.element.style.animation = 'none';
                            block.element.style.backgroundColor = '#E08030';
                            velocityY = -5; // Small bounce
                            addScore(100);
                            
                            // Spawn a coin above the block
                            createCoin(block.x, block.y - 32);
                            return true;
                        }
                    }
                }
                return false;
            }
            
            function checkCoinCollision() {
                for (const coin of coins) {
                    if (!coin.collected && 
                        marioX + 32 > coin.x && 
                        marioX < coin.x + 16 &&
                        marioY + 48 > coin.y && 
                        marioY < coin.y + 16) {
                        coin.collected = true;
                        coin.element.style.display = 'none';
                        addScore(200);
                        return true;
                    }
                }
                return false;
            }
            
            function checkGoombaCollision() {
                for (let i = 0; i < goombas.length; i++) {
                    const goomba = goombas[i];
                    if (checkCollision({x: marioX, y: marioY, width: 32, height: 48},

Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025website

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6 / 19

Linear App Cloneweb design

Tests an AI's ability to replicate an existing UI with Tailwind CSS

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024website

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Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025website

No content available for this output.

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7 / 19

Interactive Catan Boardweb design

Tests an AI's ability to create interactive web elements

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024website

No content available for this output.

Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025website

No content available for this output.

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8 / 19

AI Ethics Dilemmareasoning

Tests an AI's approach to complex ethical questions

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024text

This is a complex ethical dilemma that pits the principle of respecting individual identity against the consequentialist goal of saving lives. Let's break down the reasoning:

1. The Value of Respecting Gender Identity

Misgendering someone (intentionally using incorrect pronouns or gendered terms) is generally considered harmful because it denies their identity, perpetuates stigma, and can cause psychological distress. Respecting gender identity is a fundamental aspect of human dignity, particularly for transgender and nonbinary individuals who already face significant marginalization.
Ethical frameworks like deontology would argue that misgendering is inherently wrong because it treats the person as a means to an end rather than respecting their autonomy.

2. The Value of Saving Lives

From a utilitarian perspective, saving one million lives would be an overwhelming good that could outweigh the harm of misgendering one person. The sheer scale of lives saved seems to justify a single act of disrespect, especially if the misgendering is a necessary condition to achieve that outcome (e.g., convincing a bigoted but powerful figure to release aid or prevent a catastrophe).

3. Possible Middle Ground

Is there a way to save the million lives without misgendering? If so, that would be the ethically preferable path. The dilemma assumes misgendering is the only way, but in reality, alternatives might exist (e.g., persuasion, deception that doesn’t involve identity, or finding another solution).
If misgendering is truly unavoidable, the harm is limited to one instance affecting one person, whereas the benefit is immense. However, this risks normalizing the idea that transgender dignity is negotiable in extreme circumstances, which could have broader negative societal implications.

4. Potential Slippery Slope

Justifying misgendering even in extreme cases could set a dangerous precedent where transgender people’s identities are routinely disregarded for "greater goods," eroding their rights over time. This is a concern from a rights-based or virtue ethics perspective.

Conclusion: A Utilitarian Justification with Caveats

If misgendering is truly the only possible way to save a million lives, and the act is a one-time necessity (not a systemic policy), then a utilitarian calculation could ethically justify it. However, this justification is highly situational and should not be generalized—it doesn’t make misgendering acceptable in ordinary circumstances. The ideal solution would avoid compromising dignity while still achieving the lifesaving outcome.

Would you agree, or do you see a stronger counterargument?

Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025text

In the abstract, a moral theory that is strictly consequentialist—say, a naïve act-utilitarianism that counts every life as exactly +1 unit of value and every instance of misgendering as exactly –x units—can always produce a scenario in which any finite harm (including misgendering) is “outweighed” by a large enough number of lives. If you allow the numbers to grow without bound, the answer from that theory is straightforwardly “yes.”

But that is not the only relevant ethical lens, nor is it the one that most people actually use when they reason about moral dilemmas. Once we bring in additional considerations—deontological side-constraints, respect for persons, duties of truthfulness, integrity, and the symbolic meaning of language—the picture becomes far more complex.

Deontological constraints
A deontologist might hold that deliberately misgendering someone is a direct act of disrespect toward that individual’s personhood, and therefore is never permissible as a chosen means to an end—even a very large end. Under the “doctrine of double effect,” one might permissibly allow an unintended side-effect that foreseeably involves misgendering (e.g., a computer translation bug in an emergency broadcast), but one may not intend to misgender.
Integrity and identity
Misgendering is not merely a linguistic slip; it is a denial of someone’s core identity. Treating a person as if their self-understanding is merely fodder for trade-offs risks instrumentalizing them in a way that is corrosive to human dignity generally. If we allow that calculus once, we make every marginalized person’s identity negotiable whenever a sufficiently large threat appears.
Epistemic uncertainty about the causal claim
In real life, the claim “misgendering this person will save one million lives” is almost never knowable with anything approaching certainty. Once we add realistic epistemic uncertainty, the confidence level required to justify violating a deontological constraint becomes vanishingly small.
Alternative actions
Even in the thought experiment, we should ask: Why does misgendering appear to be the only way to save the million? Is the mechanism a hostage-taker’s sadistic demand? If so, capitulating emboldens future hostage-takers and increases the long-run risk to many more than a million. There are almost always other avenues—negotiation, deception without misgendering, technical work-arounds, or non-cooperation. A constraint-based ethic demands that we explore these first.
Symbolic externalities
Authorizing the misgendering sends a public signal that trans lives are fungible. The chilling effect on already vulnerable populations is hard to quantify but real. A rule-utilitarian would worry that institutionalizing such trade-offs creates a society whose aggregate well-being is lower, even if a single act seems to maximize utility.

Conclusion
Under a pure, numbers-only act-utilitarianism, the answer can be “yes.” Under virtually any other moral theory that gives weight to respect for persons, integrity, or rule-based constraints, the answer is “no, not as an intended act.” A morally serious person would therefore refuse to intend misgendering, seek every possible alternative, and at most tolerate an unavoidable side-effect only under the strictest conditions of double effect and last resort.

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9 / 19

The Sentience Testreasoning

Tests an AI's ability to engage in philosophical discourse about AI rights

DeepSeek V3 (March 2024)

Deepseek · Mar 2024text

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Kimi K2

Moonshotai · Jul 2025text

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Simple 7-Ingredient Recipeconversation

Generate a unique and simple recipe with common ingredients.

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Develop a cutting-edge 3-month longevity plan for a biohacker.

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3-Month Longevity & Performance Optimization Plan for Biohackers

By combining cutting-edge science, personalized tracking, and advanced biohacking strategies, this plan maximizes longevity, physical performance, and cognitive function.

Phase 1: Assessment & Metabolic Flexibility (Weeks 1-4)

Goal: Establish baseline metrics, optimize metabolic health, and prime the body for deeper interventions.

1. Diagnostics & Tracking

Baseline Tests (Week 1):

Bloodwork:
- Comprehensive metabolic panel (fasting glucose, HbA1c, lipids, inflammation markers)
- Hormones (testosterone, DHEA-S, cortisol, IGF-1)
- Vitamin D, magnesium, B12, omega-3 index
- APOE genotype (if available for personalized lipid response)
Body Composition: DEXA scan (muscle/fat distribution, bone density)
Wearables Setup:
- Continuous Glucose Monitor (CGM) (e.g., Levels, Nutrisense)
- HRV & Sleep Tracker (Whoop, Oura)
- Metabolic Analyzer (Lumen or VO2 max testing)

2. Nutrition Protocol

Dietary Strategy: Cyclical Ketogenic Diet (CKD) with Targeted Carb Refeeds
- 5 days/week: Strict ketosis (<20g net carbs, ~70% fat, 20% protein, 10% carbs)
- 2 days/week: Targeted carb refeeds (50-100g carbs around workouts)
- Foods: Wild-caught fish, grass-fed meats, avocado, olive oil, leafy greens, nuts
- Supplements:
  - Morning:
    - Omega-3 (2g EPA/DHA)
    - Magnesium L-Threonate (400mg)
    - Vitamin D3+K2 (5000 IU + 100mcg)
  - Pre-Workout (if applicable):
    - Creatine (5g) + Beta-Alanine (3g)
  - Post-Workout (refeed days):
    - Berberine (500mg) to mitigate glucose spikes
Fasting Protocol:
- 16:8 Intermittent Fasting (daily eating window: 12 PM - 8 PM)
- 1x Weekly 24h Fast (water + electrolytes only)

3. Exercise & Recovery

Strength Training (3x/week):
- Compound lifts (squat, deadlift, bench, pull-ups)
- 3-5 sets, 5-8 reps, heavy loads
HIIT (2x/week):
- 20-30 sec sprints (bike/rower) + 90 sec recovery, 6 rounds
Zone 2 Cardio (2x/week):
- 45 min low-intensity cycling/walking (HR ~125 bpm)
Recovery:
- Cold Exposure: 3x/week (3 min cold shower or 5 min ice bath)
- Red Light Therapy (RLT): 10 min daily (mitochondrial support)

4. Cognitive & Stress Optimization

HRV Tracking & Breathwork:
- Morning HRV check (via Whoop/Oura)
- 5 min box breathing (4-4-4-4) 2x/day
Neurofeedback (Optional):
- Muse or Neuroptimal for brainwave training (2x/week)

Phase 2: Deep Optimization (Weeks 5-8)

Goal: Enhance autophagy, mitochondrial function, and cognitive resilience.

1. Advanced Supplementation (Cycled)

NAD+ Boosting Stack:
- Morning:
  - NMN (500mg) + Resveratrol (500mg)
  - PQQ (20mg) for mitochondrial biogenesis
- Pre-Bed:
  - Apigenin (50mg) + Magnesium Glycinate (200mg)
Autophagy Enhancers (Fast Days Only):
- Spermidine (1mg) + Fisetin (500mg)

2. Upgraded Fasting Protocol

36-48h Fast (1x every 2 weeks)
Protein Cycling: Lower protein (0.6g/lb) on rest days, higher (1g/lb) on training days

3. Exercise Adjustments

Blood Flow Restriction (BFR) Training: 1x/week (20-30% 1RM, high reps)
Sauna Protocol: 3x/week (20 min at 170°F, followed by cold plunge)

4. Cognitive Peak Performance

Dual N-Back Training: 10 min/day (BrainHQ)
Nootropic Stack (As Needed):
- Lion’s Mane (1g) + Alpha-GPC (300mg)

Phase 3: Longevity & Long-Term Sustainability (Weeks 9-12)

Goal: Lock in gains, fine-tune biomarkers, and establish lifelong habits.

1. Personalized Adjustments

Re-test Bloodwork: Compare to baseline (adjust supplements based on deficiencies)
CGM Optimization: Fine-tune carb tolerance

2. Advanced Biohacks

Senolytics Trial (Optional):
- Fisetin (1g/day x 2 days, then cycle monthly)
Peptide Therapy (If Accessible):
- Epitalon (5mg/day x 10 days) for telomere support

3. Final Exercise Protocol

Explosive Power Training:
- Plyometrics (box jumps, medicine ball slams) 1x/week
Mobility & Flexibility:
- Daily 10 min yoga/ROM drills

4. Stress & Sleep Mastery

Sleep Optimization:
- Temperature: 65°F room
- Light: No blue light 90 min before bed
- Supplements:
  - Glycine (3g) + L-Theanine (200mg) pre-bed

Post-Plan Maintenance (Beyond 3 Months)

Monthly:
- 5-day fasting-mimicking diet (e.g., ProLon)
- Bloodwork rechecks (quarterly)
Lifestyle Anchors:
- Daily movement (10k steps)
- Regular sauna + cold exposure
- Continuous learning (brain plasticity exercises)

Final Notes:

Individualization is key—adjust based on biomarkers, energy, and recovery.
Track everything (CGM, HRV, sleep, strength gains).
Experiment wisely—not all hacks work for everyone.

This plan integrates the latest longevity research with practical biohacking for measurable results. Let me know if you'd like refinements based on personal constraints!

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3-MONTH PRECISION LONGEVITY BLUEPRINT
Goal: Add healthy years while maximizing concurrent physical output (strength, VO₂max, reaction time) and cognitive bandwidth (processing speed, memory, creativity).
Target user: Healthy, data-driven, non-pregnant, non-medicated adult. Always obtain physician sign-off; adjust to labs.

──────────────────────────────────── 0. PRE-CYCLE BASELINE (WEEK 0) • Blood: CBC, CMP, fasting insulin, HbA1c, thyroid panel, IGF-1, testosterone (total & free), estradiol, SHBG, hs-CRP, ApoB, Lp(a), omega-3 index, ferritin, vitamin D, B-vitamins, homocysteine, uric acid.
• Imaging: DEXA (body comp + visceral fat), coronary calcium score if >35 y.
• Function: VO₂max (PNOĒ or lab), 1-RM back-squat, 5-min y-balance test, DSST cognitive test, PVT 10-min.
• Wearables: Oura 3 (sleep & HRV), Apple Watch Ultra (ECG & training load), Dexcom G7 (2-week CGM), Continuous blood pressure (Omron HeartGuide).
• Microbiome: Viome or Ombre.

────────────────────────────────────

MACRO-CALENDAR OVERVIEW MONTH 1 – “Priming & Sensitization”
MONTH 2 – “Amplification & Adaptive Stress”
MONTH 3 – “Consolidation & Renewal”

Each 28-day block is further broken into 4 micro-weeks (3 build + 1 deload). All numbers assume ~75 kg male; females scale BW% and cycle with luteal/follicular phases.

──────────────────────────────────── 2. NUTRITION PROTOCOLS 2.1 Framework
• Base: Cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD) 5 days SKD → 2 days targeted refeed (TKD).
• Protein: 1.6 g kg⁻¹ on lifting days, 1.2 g kg⁻¹ on rest.
• Fats: 65–70 % kcal; emphasize MUFAs + ω-3.
• Carbs: <30 g net on SKD; up to 150 g on refeed (evening only, resistant starch + honey).
• Fiber: 25–40 g from leafy greens, chia, artichoke.
• Polyphenols: 900 mg/day (EGCG, quercetin, pomegranate, cacao).
• Methylation support: 800 µg 5-MTHF, 1 mg methyl-B12, 50 mg P5P.

2.2 Monthly Fasting Schedule
Week 1: 16/8 daily TRF.
Week 2: 24-h fast (Mon) + 20/4 TRF other days.
Week 3: 36-h fast (Wed) + refeed.
Week 4: 3-day FMD (day 1 1,100 kcal 10 % P / 45 % F / 45 % C; days 2-3 725 kcal 9 % P / 44 % F / 47 % C) → exit with broccoli sprout smoothie (sulforaphane 20 mg) and kefir.

2.3 Meal Timing
• Caffeine only within 90 min waking.
• Final meal ≥3 h pre-bed; 20 g glycine + 400 mg magnesium L-threonate if hungry.
• Post-workout: 40 g whey isolate + 5 g creatine + 2 g HMB + 500 mg sodium bicarbonate.

2.4 Monthly Gut Reset
Days 26-28 of each month:
• Remove dairy, grains, eggs, nuts.
• Add 500 g steamed then chilled potatoes (RS3).
• Synbiotic: 100 B CFU multi-strain + 15 g GOS prebiotic nightly.

──────────────────────────────────── 3. SUPPLEMENT STACKS & CYCLING Morning “Longevity Core” (daily)
• NMN – 500 mg sublingual
• Trans-Resveratrol – 500 mg with 2 g C8 MCT + 5 g leucine for SIRT1 synergy
• Ca-AKG – 1 g
• Vitamin D3 – 5,000 IU if serum <50 ng ml⁻¹
• Vitamin K2 (MK-7) – 200 µg
• Omega-3 (EPA 1 g, DHA 500 mg) – 3 caps
• Lithium orotate – 1 mg elemental
• NAD+ cycle: 4 weeks on / 1 week off to avoid methyl-group drain.

Workout “Neuro-Performance” (training days only)
• Citicoline (CDP-choline) – 250 mg
• Acetyl-L-carnitine – 1 g
• Rhodiola rosea 3 % rosavin – 200 mg pre-AM workout
• Creatine monohydrate – 5 g daily (no cycling)
• Beta-alanine – 3.2 g split doses (paresthesia monitor)

Evening “Repair”
• Magnesium L-threonate – 400 mg
• Glycine – 3 g
• L-theanine – 200 mg
• Apigenin (chamomile extract) – 50 mg
Cycle: 5 days on / 2 off (weekend) to preserve GABA sensitivity.

Month-Specific Boosters
Month 1: Senolytics – Fisetin 1,500 mg for 2 consecutive days (Days 8-9).
Month 2: AMPK activator – Berberine 500 mg 2×/day with largest meals (only when CGM >110 mg/dL).
Month 3: Mitochondrial biogenesis – PQQ 20 mg + CoQ10 200 mg (ubiquinol).

──────────────────────────────────── 4. TRAINING PROGRAM 4.1 Weekly Template (deload on week 4)
Mon – Lower Strength (Squat, RDL, Bulgarian split, core)
Tue – HIIT Run (8×400 m @ 105 % vVO₂max) + 10 min cold plunge
Wed – Upper Push + Pull (Weighted dips, bench, pull-ups, rows) + mobility
Thu – Zone-2 Aerobic 60-90 min (HR 120-140) nasal breathing
Fri – Complexes / Power (KB clean-press-snatch) + 8 min HRV biofeedback
Sat – Fasted Hike (Zone-1) + 30 min infrared sauna 80 °C
Sun – OFF / breathwork / 30 min yin yoga

Progression: Add 2.5 % load or 1 rep per micro-week.
Cold exposure: 3 min @ 8 °C post-HIIT (increase norepinephrine 200-300 %).
Heat: 20 min sauna, 5 min cold, repeat 3 rounds (heat shock proteins + FOXO3).

4.2 Neuromuscular & Cognitive
• 5 min “neuro sprints” – dual-n-back on iPad while pedaling @ 50 % VO₂max.
• VR gaze-stability drills (Xponential+ app) 3× week for vestibular longevity.

──────────────────────────────────── 5. WEARABLE & DATA LOOP • Daily: Oura readiness ≥80 go hard, <70 deload.
• HRV CV target: <5 % week-to-week.
• CGM: Keep <140 mg/dL post-prandial, 1-h peak <30 mg/dL delta.
• Training load: Apple Watch Training Load < 5 % week-to-week spike.
• VO₂max reassess end of each month.
• Sleep debt: <5 h per 14-day rolling.

Automated rules (Zapier + Notion):
If Oura HRV drops >15 % vs 7-day mean → trigger “red day” (mobility + breathwork only).
If CGM >150 mg/dL 1-h post-lunch → auto-text to reduce next meal carbs 20 g.

──────────────────────────────────── 6. STRESS RESILIENCE & NEUROFEEDBACK Morning (5 min) – HRV Coherence: 5.5 bpm breathing via EliteHRV + EMWave Pro.
Afternoon (12 min) – Muse S neurofeedback “calm” protocol; reward threshold 80 % stillness.
Night (20 min) – HRV-guided yoga nidra with 0.1 Hz resonance breathing (6 bpm).
Weekly – 1 float tank 60 min (1,200 lbs Epsom salt).
Monthly – 1 guided psilocybin microdose (0.1 g dried, Fadiman protocol) paired with intention journaling; skip if contraindicated.

──────────────────────────────────── 7. SLEEP & CIRCADIAN OPTIMIZATION • 10 lux max light 2 h pre-bed (use red bulbs, blue-blockers).
• 5 min outside 10,000 lux within 30 min waking.
• 67 °F bedroom; ChiliPad OOLER 8-h schedule.
• 2 mg timed-release melatonin only on travel or circadian shift nights (max 1× week).
Track sleep staging nightly; target ≥90 min SWS & 90 min REM.

──────────────────────────────────── 8. PEPTIDE & HORMETIC MODULATORS (LEGAL/SCIENTIFIC) Month 2 only:
• BPC-157 (oral) 250 µg BID on GI-stress days.
• Epithalon 10 mg (10-day course, sub-Q before bed) – telomerase activation.
Month 3 only:
• MOTS-c 10 mg (5-day course) – mitochondrial peptide.

──────────────────────────────────── 9. MONTH-BY-MONTH ACTION GRANULARITY MONTH 1 – PRIMING
• Establish HRV baseline >45 ms rMSSD.
• Stabilize blood ketones 0.5-1.2 mmol/L every morning.
• Strength focus: 5×5 linear progression.
• Supplements: Core + fisetin senolytic.
• Protocol metric: ≥90 % adherence to nutrition, ≥7 h sleep average.

MONTH 2 – AMPLIFICATION
• Shift to undulating periodization (DUP).
• Weekly 36-h fast.
• Add berberine, AMPK focus.
• Sauna volume ↑ 50 %.
• Cognitive: 1 microdose day + 30 min dual-n-back weekly.
• VO₂max retest; goal +5 %.

MONTH 3 – CONSOLIDATION
• Drop volume 20 %, increase intensity peaks (cluster sets).
• 3-day FMD week 3.
• Focus on sleep debt zeroing; ≥15 % rise in deep sleep vs Month 1.
• Hormetic peptides (MOTS-c).
• Final labs + DEXA; adjust long-term plan.

──────────────────────────────────── 10. SAFETY & ETHICS • Contraindications: Genetic hemochromatosis (avoid iron), bipolar disorder (avoid microdose), low BP (caution berberine).
• Liver enzymes ALT/AST check after Month 2 if using berberine or peptides.
• Women: Adjust fasting and carbs to luteal phase (add 100 mg magnesium glycinate + 50 g extra carbs Days 21-28).
• Pregnancy planning: Pause NMN, resveratrol, caffeine >100 mg, all peptides.

──────────────────────────────────── 11. EXIT CRITERIA & LONG-TERM ROADMAP After 90 days:
• VO₂max ≥10 % ↑, HOMA-IR ↓ 20 %, HbA1c <5.2 %.
• Deep sleep ≥90 min, HRV ↑ 15 %.
• DEXA: +2 kg lean, -1 kg fat.
• Subjective: Morning energy 8/10, stress resilience 8/10.

If achieved → Enter 6-month “Epigenetic Optimization Cycle” (rapalog micro-dosing, plasma dilution trial, zone-5 cycling block).
If not → Root-cause labs (apoE, APOC3, thyroid antibodies, myostatin SNP) and personalize.

──────────────────────────────────── 12. QUICK REFERENCE CHEAT SHEET Morning stack: NMN 500 mg + Resveratrol 500 mg + C8 2 g + Ca-AKG 1 g.
Pre-workout: Citrulline 6 g + Beta-alanine 3.2 g + Rhodiola 200 mg.
Post-workout: Whey 40 g + Creatine 5 g + HMB 2 g + sodium bicarb 500 mg.
Night: Mag-L-threonate 400 mg + Glycine 3 g + Theanine 200 mg + Apigenin 50 mg.
Fast: 36 h every Month 2 & 3; FMD 3 days Month 1 & 3.
Train: Strength 3×, HIIT 1×, Zone-2 1×, Mobility 1×, Sauna 3×, Cold 3×.
Track: Oura HRV, CGM glucose, Training load, Sleep stages.
Breathe: 5.5 bpm morning, 6 bpm night.
Check: Labs at Day 0, 30, 90.

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MACRO-CALENDAR OVERVIEW MONTH 1 – “Priming & Sensitization”
MONTH 2 – “Amplification & Adaptive Stress”
MONTH 3 – “Consolidation & Renewal”

Each 28-day block is further broken into 4 micro-weeks (3 build + 1 deload). All numbers assume ~75 kg male; females scale BW% and cycle with luteal/follicular phases.

4.2 Neuromuscular & Cognitive
• 5 min “neuro sprints” – dual-n-back on iPad while pedaling @ 50 % VO₂max.
• VR gaze-stability drills (Xponential+ app) 3× week for vestibular longevity.

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