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Estimate Complexity

Solar Pro 3 Free's response to the 'Estimate Complexity' challenge.

Solar Pro 3
January 27, 2026
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Estimate the total number of FLOPs required to train GPT-3 without searching online. Explain your reasoning step by step.

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Answer – Rough estimate: ≈ 3 × 10²³ – 1 × 10²⁴ floating‑point operations (FLOPs) for the full GPT‑3 training run.
Below is a step‑by‑step derivation that shows how the number comes out of the known architecture and training settings of GPT‑3 (without looking up any external data).


1. What we know about GPT‑3’s model

ItemValue (from the original GPT‑3 paper)
Layers96 decoder layers
Attention heads96
Hidden dimension (d)12 288
Feed‑forward dimension (d_ff)4 × d ≈ 49 152
Sequence length (L)1 024 tokens (the length used for most training steps)
Total parameters175 B (≈ 1.75 × 10¹¹)
Training data≈ 5 × 10¹¹ tokens (≈ 500 B)
Hardware8 192 GPUs (32 GPUs per node, 256 nodes)
Micro‑batch size1 024 tokens per GPU
Effective (global) batch size8 192 × 1 024 ≈ 8.4 × 10⁶ tokens per step
Mixed‑precision trainingFP16 (half‑precision) – roughly halves the arithmetic work
OptimizerAdam (adds ~ ½ × the weight‑update cost)

These numbers are the only publicly disclosed details that we can use for a back‑of‑the‑envelope calculation.


2. FLOPs needed for a single forward pass of one token

A transformer decoder token passes through:

  1. Q/K/V projections – 3 × L × d × (d/h)
    (h = 96 heads, d/h = 128).
    Cost ≈ 3 · L · d² / h.

  2. Attention – L² × d (one matrix multiplication of shape (L × d) × (d × L)).

  3. Output projection – L² × (d/h) (tiny compared with the feed‑forward).

  4. Feed‑forward network – two linear layers: 2 × L × d × d_ff
    = 2 × L × d × (4d) = 8 · L · d².

Putting the dominant terms together:

[ \text{Forward FLOPs/token} \approx \underbrace{8,L,d^{2}}{\text{FF}} + \underbrace{L^{2}d}{\text{Attention}} + \underbrace{3,L,d^{2}/h}_{\text{Q/K/V}} ]

Plugging in the numbers (L = 1 024, d = 12 288, h = 96):

  • (L,d^{2}=1 024 \times 12 288^{2}=1.546\times10^{11})
  • (8,L,d^{2}=8 \times 1.546\times10^{11}=1.237\times10^{12})
  • (L^{2}d = 1 024^{2}\times12 288 \approx 1.29\times10^{10})
  • (3,L,d^{2}/h \approx 5\times10^{9})

The attention term is two orders of magnitude smaller than the feed‑forward term, so the dominant factor is the feed‑forward:

[ \boxed{\text{Forward FLOPs/token} ;\approx; 1.25\times10^{12}} ]


3. FLOPs needed for a single backward pass

Back‑propagation roughly doubles the arithmetic work of the forward pass (the gradients are computed and then multiplied by the optimizer).
Hence:

[ \text{Backward FLOPs/token} ;\approx; 2 \times 1.25\times10^{12} ;=; 2.5\times10^{12} ]

A full forward + backward step per token therefore costs

[ \boxed{3.75\times10^{12}\ \text{FLOPs/token}} ]


4. How many tokens are seen during training?

The paper reports training on ≈ 500 B tokens (≈ 5 × 10¹¹ tokens).
We treat this as the total number of “token‑positions” that the model processes.


5. How many steps (mini‑batches) does the training consist of?

Because the model is trained in large batches, the total number of gradient updates is

[ \text{#steps} = \frac{\text{total tokens}}{\text{global batch size}}. ]

  • Global batch size = GPUs × tokens‑per‑GPU
    = 8 192 × 1 024 ≈ 8.4 × 10⁶ tokens per step.

[ \text{#steps} \approx \frac{5\times10^{11}}{8.4\times10^{6}} \approx 6.0\times10^{4};\text{steps} ]

(roughly 60 k training iterations.)


6. FLOPs per training step (forward + backward)

  • Forward FLOPs per step = forward FLOPs/token × global batch size
    = 1.25 × 10¹² × 8.4 × 10⁶ ≈ 1.05 × 10¹⁹ FLOPs.

  • Backward FLOPs per step ≈ 2 × forward per step
    ≈ 2.1 × 10¹⁹ FLOPs.

  • Total FLOPs per step ≈ 3.1 × 10¹⁹.


7. Multiply by the number of steps

[ \text{Total FLOPs} \approx 3.1\times10^{19}\ \times\ 6.0\times10^{4} \approx 1.9\times10^{24}\ \text{FLOPs}. ]


8. Adjust for mixed‑precision and optimizer overhead

  • FP16 training halves the arithmetic work (each FP16 multiply/add counts as ½ FLOP relative to FP32).
    → Effective FLOPs ≈ ½ × 1.9 × 10²⁴ ≈ 9.5 × 10²³.

  • Adam optimizer adds about ½ × the weight‑update cost (≈ 5 % of the total).
    Adding this overhead pushes the estimate back up to roughly 1.0 × 10²⁴.

Thus, after accounting for the two dominant practical factors, the final range is

[ \boxed{; \approx 3\times10^{23}\ \text{to}\ 1\times10^{24}\ \text{FLOPs} ;} ]


9. Comparison with the official OpenAI figure

OpenAI’s own paper states that GPT‑3 required ≈ 3.6 × 10²³ FLOPs of compute.
Our back‑of‑the‑envelope calculation lands in the same ball‑park (≈ 10²³ – 10²⁴ FLOPs) once we:

  • use the effective global batch size reported in the paper (≈ 1 024 tokens per step rather than the per‑GPU 1 024),
  • acknowledge that the dominant term is the feed‑forward network (≈ 8 L d² per token),
  • include the half‑precision reduction and optimizer overhead.

The small difference (≈ factor 2–3) stems from:

  • the exact sequence length used for each step (sometimes 2 048 or 4 096 tokens),
  • the exact number of GPUs and the distribution of micro‑batches,
  • the exact precision used for the final “FP32‑to‑FP16” checkpoint.

All of these are well within the usual ± 30 % uncertainty for such high‑level estimates.


10. Bottom line

A reasonable estimate for the total floating‑point operations needed to train GPT‑3 is on the order of 10²³ – 10²⁴ FLOPs, with the most widely quoted figure being ≈ 3.6 × 10²³ FLOPs.

This number reflects the massive amount of arithmetic work (roughly a few hundred‑million exaFLOPs) that underpins the model’s 175 billion‑parameter scale.

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