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Updated Sep 2026

GPT-4vsQwen3.8 Max (0902)

Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is cheaper than GPT-4 at $2/M vs $30/M input tokens.

GPT-4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) compared across 10 shared prompts
SpecGPT-4Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input price$30/M tokens$2/M tokens
Output price$60/M tokens$6/M tokens
Context window8K tokens1.0M tokens
WeightsClosedClosed
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedMay 2023Sep 2026
Side by side

Same prompt, both answers

Opening lines from 5 of the 10 prompts both answered. Formatting stripped, words untouched.

Beginner's Longevity Plan

Outline a simple, actionable 1-month plan for someone starting their journey towards better health and longevity. Focus on 3 key areas…

GPT-4375 words
Title: 1-Month Plan for Better Health and Longevity Week 1 - Establishing a Healthy Diet 1.1: Start Eating Whole Foods: Begin by gradually replacing processed foods in your diet with whole foods. This may include fruits, vegetables, lean proteins, and whole grains.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)536 words
The 30-Day Foundation Plan Core principle: Don't overhaul your life. Layer small wins that compound. 🏃 Area 1: Movement The goal isn't fitness. It's making your body a place you want to live in. Week 1 — Build the trigger Walk 15 minutes daily (same time each day to build the habit) No gym. No gear.
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Simple 7-Ingredient Recipe

Create a simple recipe for a delicious dish (sweet or savory) using only 7 common pantry ingredients. Include a creative name for the dish…

GPT-4172 words
Dish Name: Hearty Baked Beans Fiesta Ingredients: 2 cans of baked beans 1 large onion 3 cloves of garlic 1 bell pepper 1 can of sweet corn 2 tablespoons of olive oil Salt & pepper to taste Instructions: Preheat your oven to 350°F (175°C). Dice the onion, bell pepper, and mince the garlic.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)230 words
🍯 Midnight Crispy Chickpea Bowl A sweet-savory, crispy rice bowl that comes together faster than delivery. Ingredients (7) # Ingredient Amount 1 Canned chickpeas (drained & patted dry) 1 can (15 oz) 2 Soy sauce 3 tbsp 3 Honey 2 tbsp 4 Garlic (minced) 3 cloves 5 Vegetable oil 2 tbsp 6 Instant or leftover cooked rice 2…
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Debug This Architecture

Here's the architecture for a real-time collaborative document editor (like Google Docs): **System Overview:** - Frontend: React SPA with…

GPT-4319 words
Failure Modes: Single Point of Failure: If PostgreSQL database fails, the whole system will be unavailable. Solution: Implement a multi-master or master-slave replication for the PostgreSQL database. This will provide redundancy and high availability.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)477 words
Architecture Failure Analysis: Real-Time Collaborative Editor Critical Issues (Data Loss / Correctness) Last-Write-Wins with Client Clocks — Fundamental Data Loss Problem: Client clocks are unreliable. They drift, can be manually set, and differ across timezones.
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Explain Like I'm a Specific Expert

Explain how a large language model (like GPT or Claude) learns and generates text to each of these three audiences: 1. **An experienced…

GPT-4495 words
Experienced Software Engineer: How does a language model like GPT produce intelligent behavior? Think of it as a highly specialized function in your code. This function has been trained on a large amount of text data, and it's main goal is to predict the next word in a sentence given the previous words.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1,046 words
For the Experienced Software Engineer Think of an LLM as a lossy compression function trained on a massive corpus. During training, you're essentially building a statistical model of "given this sequence of tokens, what's the probability distribution over the next token?"
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Startup Pitch Teardown

Here's a pitch deck summary for a startup called "MindMeld AI": **Slide 1 - Vision:** "We're building the future of human-AI collaboration.…

GPT-4298 words
Weak Claim 1 - Solution: While the claim that the proprietary EEG headband uses advanced ML to decode neural patterns into text with 94% accuracy is impressive, it doesn't address concerns about user comfort, ease of use, or aesthetics.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)582 words
The 3 Weakest Claims in the MindMeld AI Pitch The TAM Claim: "$180B" (Slide 4) Why it's weak: This is a textbook case of TAM inflation that immediately undermines credibility with any experienced investor.
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Our Verdict
GPT-4
GPT-4
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, nothing separates them.

Qwen3.8 Max (0902) costs 10x less per token.

Too close to call
API pricing

Cost per 1M tokens

GPT-4
Input
$30.00
Output
$60.00
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input
$2.00
15× cheaper
Output
$6.00
10× cheaper

Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is cheaper on both: 15× input, 10× output.

Where to run it

3 hosts

GPT-42 hosts
HostInOutContextUptime
Azure AI Foundry$30.00 in·$60.00 out·8k·100% upOpenAI$30.00 in·$60.00 out·8k·100% up
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1 host
HostInOutContextUptime
Alibaba Cloud$2.00 in·$6.00 out·1M·100% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 22 Sep 2026.

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GPT-4 is developed by OpenAI while Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is developed by Qwen. GPT-4 has a 8K token context window vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 10 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

It depends on your use case. GPT-4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 10 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

GPT-4 costs $30/M input tokens and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) costs $2/M input tokens. Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is $28.00/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

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