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Updated Sep 2026

Grok 4.7vsQwen3.8 Max

Grok 4.7 is cheaper than Qwen3.8 Max at $1.6/M vs $2/M input tokens.

Grok 4.7 and Qwen3.8 Max compared across 10 shared prompts
SpecGrok 4.7Qwen3.8 Max
Input price$1.6/M tokens$2/M tokens
Output price$4.8/M tokens$6/M tokens
Context window500K tokens1.0M tokens
WeightsClosedClosed
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedSep 2026Aug 2026
Side by side

Same prompt, both answers

Opening lines from 5 of the 10 prompts both answered. Formatting stripped, words untouched.

Startup Pitch Teardown

Here's a pitch deck summary for a startup called "MindMeld AI": **Slide 1 - Vision:** "We're building the future of human-AI collaboration.…

Grok 4.7599 words
Three weakest claims 1. “Predict what you want to type before you think it” (Slide 1) This is scientifically incoherent, not just ambitious. Non-invasive EEG decodes neural activity that is already underway (motor imagery, attempted speech, attention).
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Qwen3.8 Max1,957 words
The 3 weakest claims are the pre-thought prediction claim, the 94% accuracy / any language / any device claim, and the $180B TAM claim. These are the ones most likely to undermine credibility with investors, technical reviewers, or enterprise buyers because they are either logically inconsistent, under-specified, or…
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Simple 7-Ingredient Recipe

Create a simple recipe for a delicious dish (sweet or savory) using only 7 common pantry ingredients. Include a creative name for the dish…

Grok 4.7129 words
Pantry Gold Honey Biscuits A sweet, buttery, slightly salty biscuit that tastes like it took more effort than it did. Ingredients (7) 2 cups all-purpose flour 1 tbsp baking powder ½ tsp salt ¼ cup sugar ½ cup butter (cold) ¾ cup milk 2 tbsp honey Time: about 10 minutes prep, 12–15 minutes bake Instructions Heat the…
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Qwen3.8 Max132 words
Dish Name: Golden Hour Peanut Butter Oat Clusters Ingredients (7): 1 cup rolled oats ½ cup peanut butter ⅓ cup honey ½ cup chocolate chips 1 teaspoon vanilla extract ½ teaspoon ground cinnamon ¼ teaspoon salt Instructions: Optional but recommended: Toast the oats in a dry skillet over medium heat for 3–4 minutes…
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Debug This Architecture

Here's the architecture for a real-time collaborative document editor (like Google Docs): **System Overview:** - Frontend: React SPA with…

Grok 4.71,399 words
This design will lose edits, split users into inconsistent views, and fall over under concurrent writing. The core problems are clock-based conflict resolution, per-server WebSocket fan-out, polling as the sync path, and treating documents as full HTML snapshots.
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Qwen3.8 Max5,155 words
Below is a comprehensive failure-mode review of the proposed architecture. I will group related issues where the same root cause creates multiple symptoms. The biggest problems are: Client-clock last-write-wins is not safe for collaborative editing.
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Beginner's Longevity Plan

Outline a simple, actionable 1-month plan for someone starting their journey towards better health and longevity. Focus on 3 key areas…

Grok 4.7442 words
1-month beginner plan for better health and longevity Focus on three foundations: nutrition, movement, and sleep. Aim for consistency over perfection. If you have a medical condition, check with a clinician before big changes. Week-by-week rhythm Week 1: Build awareness and one easy habit in each area.
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Qwen3.8 Max853 words
Here’s a simple, beginner-friendly 1-month health and longevity plan focused on three key areas: diet, movement, and sleep/stress. The goal is not perfection, but building small, sustainable habits.
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Explain Like I'm a Specific Expert

Explain how a large language model (like GPT or Claude) learns and generates text to each of these three audiences: 1. **An experienced…

Grok 4.71,173 words
1. Experienced software engineer An LLM is a stateless function from a token sequence to a probability distribution over the next token. Training is a giant batch job: you stream text, run a forward pass, compare the predicted distribution to the actual next token with cross-entropy, and push gradients through billions…
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Qwen3.8 Max1,107 words
Experienced software engineer, no ML background, skeptical of “next-word prediction” Think of a large language model as a very large, learned function: given a sequence of tokens, it outputs a probability distribution over the next token.
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Our Verdict
Grok 4.7
Grok 4.7
Qwen3.8 Max
Qwen3.8 Max

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, nothing separates them.

Too close to call
API pricing

Cost per 1M tokens

Grok 4.7
Input
$1.60
1.3× cheaper
Output
$4.80
1.3× cheaper
Qwen3.8 Max
Input
$2.00
Output
$6.00

Grok 4.7 is cheaper on both: 1.3× input, 1.3× output.

Where to run it

2 hosts

Grok 4.71 host
HostInOutContextUptime
xAI$1.60 in·$4.80 out·500k·99.1% up
Qwen3.8 Max1 host
HostInOutContextUptime
Alibaba Cloud$2.00 in·$6.00 out·1M·100% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 22 Sep 2026.

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Grok 4.7 is developed by xAI while Qwen3.8 Max is developed by Qwen. Grok 4.7 has a 500K token context window vs Qwen3.8 Max's 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 10 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

It depends on your use case. Grok 4.7 and Qwen3.8 Max each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 10 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

Grok 4.7 costs $1.6/M input tokens and Qwen3.8 Max costs $2/M input tokens. Grok 4.7 is $0.40/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

This page shows a side-by-side comparison of Grok 4.7 and Qwen3.8 Max across shared challenges. You can vote on which model produced the better output in a blind duel. Browsing and voting are free. No account is needed to look; signing in only saves your votes and likes.

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