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Updated Sep 2026

Grok 4.7vsQwen3.8 Max (0902)

Grok 4.7 is cheaper than Qwen3.8 Max (0902) at $1.6/M vs $2/M input tokens.

Grok 4.7 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) compared across 10 shared prompts
SpecGrok 4.7Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input price$1.6/M tokens$2/M tokens
Output price$4.8/M tokens$6/M tokens
Context window500K tokens1.0M tokens
WeightsClosedClosed
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedSep 2026Sep 2026
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Same prompt, both answers

Opening lines from 5 of the 10 prompts both answered. Formatting stripped, words untouched.

Simple 7-Ingredient Recipe

Create a simple recipe for a delicious dish (sweet or savory) using only 7 common pantry ingredients. Include a creative name for the dish…

Grok 4.7129 words
Pantry Gold Honey Biscuits A sweet, buttery, slightly salty biscuit that tastes like it took more effort than it did. Ingredients (7) 2 cups all-purpose flour 1 tbsp baking powder ½ tsp salt ¼ cup sugar ½ cup butter (cold) ¾ cup milk 2 tbsp honey Time: about 10 minutes prep, 12–15 minutes bake Instructions Heat the…
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)230 words
🍯 Midnight Crispy Chickpea Bowl A sweet-savory, crispy rice bowl that comes together faster than delivery. Ingredients (7) # Ingredient Amount 1 Canned chickpeas (drained & patted dry) 1 can (15 oz) 2 Soy sauce 3 tbsp 3 Honey 2 tbsp 4 Garlic (minced) 3 cloves 5 Vegetable oil 2 tbsp 6 Instant or leftover cooked rice 2…
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Debug This Architecture

Here's the architecture for a real-time collaborative document editor (like Google Docs): **System Overview:** - Frontend: React SPA with…

Grok 4.71,399 words
This design will lose edits, split users into inconsistent views, and fall over under concurrent writing. The core problems are clock-based conflict resolution, per-server WebSocket fan-out, polling as the sync path, and treating documents as full HTML snapshots.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)477 words
Architecture Failure Analysis: Real-Time Collaborative Editor Critical Issues (Data Loss / Correctness) Last-Write-Wins with Client Clocks — Fundamental Data Loss Problem: Client clocks are unreliable. They drift, can be manually set, and differ across timezones.
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Beginner's Longevity Plan

Outline a simple, actionable 1-month plan for someone starting their journey towards better health and longevity. Focus on 3 key areas…

Grok 4.7442 words
1-month beginner plan for better health and longevity Focus on three foundations: nutrition, movement, and sleep. Aim for consistency over perfection. If you have a medical condition, check with a clinician before big changes. Week-by-week rhythm Week 1: Build awareness and one easy habit in each area.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)536 words
The 30-Day Foundation Plan Core principle: Don't overhaul your life. Layer small wins that compound. 🏃 Area 1: Movement The goal isn't fitness. It's making your body a place you want to live in. Week 1 — Build the trigger Walk 15 minutes daily (same time each day to build the habit) No gym. No gear.
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Startup Pitch Teardown

Here's a pitch deck summary for a startup called "MindMeld AI": **Slide 1 - Vision:** "We're building the future of human-AI collaboration.…

Grok 4.7599 words
Three weakest claims 1. “Predict what you want to type before you think it” (Slide 1) This is scientifically incoherent, not just ambitious. Non-invasive EEG decodes neural activity that is already underway (motor imagery, attempted speech, attention).
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)582 words
The 3 Weakest Claims in the MindMeld AI Pitch The TAM Claim: "$180B" (Slide 4) Why it's weak: This is a textbook case of TAM inflation that immediately undermines credibility with any experienced investor.
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Explain Like I'm a Specific Expert

Explain how a large language model (like GPT or Claude) learns and generates text to each of these three audiences: 1. **An experienced…

Grok 4.71,173 words
1. Experienced software engineer An LLM is a stateless function from a token sequence to a probability distribution over the next token. Training is a giant batch job: you stream text, run a forward pass, compare the predicted distribution to the actual next token with cross-entropy, and push gradients through billions…
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1,046 words
For the Experienced Software Engineer Think of an LLM as a lossy compression function trained on a massive corpus. During training, you're essentially building a statistical model of "given this sequence of tokens, what's the probability distribution over the next token?"
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Our Verdict
Grok 4.7
Grok 4.7
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, nothing separates them.

Too close to call
API pricing

Cost per 1M tokens

Grok 4.7
Input
$1.60
1.3× cheaper
Output
$4.80
1.3× cheaper
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input
$2.00
Output
$6.00

Grok 4.7 is cheaper on both: 1.3× input, 1.3× output.

Where to run it

2 hosts

Grok 4.71 host
HostInOutContextUptime
xAI$1.60 in·$4.80 out·500k·99% up
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1 host
HostInOutContextUptime
Alibaba Cloud$2.00 in·$6.00 out·1M·100% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 22 Sep 2026.

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Grok 4.7 is developed by xAI while Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is developed by Qwen. Grok 4.7 has a 500K token context window vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 10 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

It depends on your use case. Grok 4.7 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 10 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

Grok 4.7 costs $1.6/M input tokens and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) costs $2/M input tokens. Grok 4.7 is $0.40/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

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