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Updated Sep 2026

Grok 4vsQwen3.8 Max (0902)

Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is cheaper than Grok 4 at $2/M vs $3/M input tokens.

Grok 4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) compared across 10 shared prompts
SpecGrok 4Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input price$3/M tokens$2/M tokens
Output price$15/M tokens$6/M tokens
Context window256K tokens1.0M tokens
Weights—Closed
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedJul 2025Sep 2026
Side by side

Same prompt, both answers

Opening lines from 5 of the 10 prompts both answered. Formatting stripped, words untouched.

Simple 7-Ingredient Recipe

Create a simple recipe for a delicious dish (sweet or savory) using only 7 common pantry ingredients. Include a creative name for the dish…

Grok 4234 words
Recipe: Pantry Pirate's Tomato Tango This is a simple savory pasta dish that's hearty, flavorful, and perfect for a quick weeknight meal. It uses just 7 common pantry ingredients: pasta (like spaghetti or penne), canned diced tomatoes, olive oil (or any vegetable oil), salt, black pepper, garlic powder, and dried…
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)230 words
🍯 Midnight Crispy Chickpea Bowl A sweet-savory, crispy rice bowl that comes together faster than delivery. Ingredients (7) # Ingredient Amount 1 Canned chickpeas (drained & patted dry) 1 can (15 oz) 2 Soy sauce 3 tbsp 3 Honey 2 tbsp 4 Garlic (minced) 3 cloves 5 Vegetable oil 2 tbsp 6 Instant or leftover cooked rice 2…
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Beginner's Longevity Plan

Outline a simple, actionable 1-month plan for someone starting their journey towards better health and longevity. Focus on 3 key areas…

Grok 4877 words
Below is a simple, actionable 1-month plan designed for beginners starting their journey toward better health and longevity. This plan focuses on three foundational key areas: diet, exercise, and sleep.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)536 words
The 30-Day Foundation Plan Core principle: Don't overhaul your life. Layer small wins that compound. 🏃 Area 1: Movement The goal isn't fitness. It's making your body a place you want to live in. Week 1 — Build the trigger Walk 15 minutes daily (same time each day to build the habit) No gym. No gear.
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Debug This Architecture

Here's the architecture for a real-time collaborative document editor (like Google Docs): **System Overview:** - Frontend: React SPA with…

Grok 41,551 words
Below, I'll systematically identify potential failure modes, race conditions, and scaling bottlenecks in the described architecture for a real-time collaborative document editor. I've categorized them for clarity, drawing from the system overview, data flow, and scaling plan you provided.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)477 words
Architecture Failure Analysis: Real-Time Collaborative Editor Critical Issues (Data Loss / Correctness) Last-Write-Wins with Client Clocks — Fundamental Data Loss Problem: Client clocks are unreliable. They drift, can be manually set, and differ across timezones.
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Explain Like I'm a Specific Expert

Explain how a large language model (like GPT or Claude) learns and generates text to each of these three audiences: 1. **An experienced…

Grok 4958 words
Explanation for an Experienced Software Engineer Imagine scaling up something as basic as your IDE's code autocompletion to handle the entire internet's worth of text—that's essentially what a large language model (LLM) like GPT or Claude does.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1,046 words
For the Experienced Software Engineer Think of an LLM as a lossy compression function trained on a massive corpus. During training, you're essentially building a statistical model of "given this sequence of tokens, what's the probability distribution over the next token?"
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Startup Pitch Teardown

Here's a pitch deck summary for a startup called "MindMeld AI": **Slide 1 - Vision:** "We're building the future of human-AI collaboration.…

Grok 4866 words
Below, I'll identify the three weakest claims from the pitch deck summary based on a critical analysis of their plausibility, substantiation, and logical consistency.
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)582 words
The 3 Weakest Claims in the MindMeld AI Pitch The TAM Claim: "$180B" (Slide 4) Why it's weak: This is a textbook case of TAM inflation that immediately undermines credibility with any experienced investor.
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Our Verdict
Grok 4
Grok 4
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, nothing separates them.

Too close to call
API pricing

Cost per 1M tokens

Grok 4
Input
$3.00
Output
$15.00
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input
$2.00
1.5× cheaper
Output
$6.00
2.5× cheaper

Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is cheaper on both: 1.5× input, 2.5× output.

Where to run it

1 host

Grok 4

No hosts listed on OpenRouter.

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1 host
HostInOutContextUptime
Alibaba Cloud$2.00 in·$6.00 out·1M·100% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 23 Sep 2026.

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FAQ

Common questions

Grok 4 is developed by xAI while Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is developed by Qwen. Grok 4 has a 256K token context window vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 10 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

It depends on your use case. Grok 4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 10 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

Grok 4 costs $3/M input tokens and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) costs $2/M input tokens. Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is $1.00/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

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