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  5. Grok 4vsQwen3.8 Max Prime
Updated Sep 2026

Grok 4vsQwen3.8 Max Prime

Grok 4 is cheaper than Qwen3.8 Max Prime at $3/M vs $4/M input tokens.

Grok 4 and Qwen3.8 Max Prime compared across 19 shared prompts
SpecGrok 4Qwen3.8 Max Prime
Input price$3/M tokens$4/M tokens
Output price$15/M tokens$12/M tokens
Context window256K tokens1.0M tokens
Weights—Closed
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedJul 2025Sep 2026
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Same prompt, both answers

Opening lines from 6 of the 19 prompts both answered. Formatting stripped, words untouched.

Simple 7-Ingredient Recipe

Create a simple recipe for a delicious dish (sweet or savory) using only 7 common pantry ingredients. Include a creative name for the dish…

Grok 4234 words
Recipe: Pantry Pirate's Tomato Tango This is a simple savory pasta dish that's hearty, flavorful, and perfect for a quick weeknight meal. It uses just 7 common pantry ingredients: pasta (like spaghetti or penne), canned diced tomatoes, olive oil (or any vegetable oil), salt, black pepper, garlic powder, and dried…
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Qwen3.8 Max Prime223 words
🍯 Golden Hour Noodles A sweet, savory, garlicky pasta that tastes like it took way more effort than it did. Ingredients (7) # Ingredient Amount 1 Spaghetti 8 oz (half a box) 2 Butter 3 tablespoons 3 Garlic, minced 4 cloves 4 Honey 2 tablespoons 5 Soy sauce 1 tablespoon 6 Red pepper flakes ½ teaspoon 7 Parmesan cheese…
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Mini LBO Underwrite

You are underwriting a 5-year LBO for a private equity investment committee. Company (fictional): HarborTech Services (HTS) –…

Grok 4754 words
Below is a concise analysis based solely on the provided information. All calculations are shown clearly with step-by-step math. Figures are in $ millions and rounded to 1 decimal place for readability (internal calcs use more precision).
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Qwen3.8 Max Prime673 words
HarborTech Services (HTS) – LBO Underwriting Memo Entry & Capital Structure Item Amount FY2025 EBITDA $120.0m Entry Multiple 12.0x Enterprise Value $1,440.0m Transaction Fees (2.0% of EV) $28.8m Total Uses $1,468.8m Term Loan (4.0x, 9.0% cash, 1.0% amort) $480.0m Mezzanine (1.5x, 12.0% cash + 2.0% PIK) $180.0m Sponsor…
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Adversarial Contract Review

Here is a contract for a software consulting engagement: --- SOFTWARE CONSULTING AGREEMENT This Agreement is entered into between TechCorp…

Grok 41,680 words
Below, I'll analyze the provided Software Consulting Agreement clause by clause. My analysis is based on general principles of U.S. contract law (assuming a U.S. context, as the contract appears to be drafted in a style common to U.S. agreements; if this is in another jurisdiction, local laws may vary).
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Qwen3.8 Max Prime2,126 words
Contract Analysis: Exploitative Clauses & Recommended Modifications Executive Summary This agreement is severely one-sided in favor of the Client. Nearly every clause shifts risk, cost, or obligation onto the Contractor while granting the Client broad unilateral rights. Below is a clause-by-clause breakdown.
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Advanced Longevity Plan (Biohacker)

Develop a comprehensive, cutting-edge 3-month longevity plan for a biohacker aiming to optimize longevity, physical and cognitive…

Grok 4899 words
Below is a comprehensive, cutting-edge 3-month longevity plan designed specifically for a biohacker aiming to optimize longevity (e.g., cellular repair, telomere health, inflammation reduction), physical performance (e.g., strength, endurance, recovery), and cognitive performance (e.g., focus, memory, neuroplasticity).
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Qwen3.8 Max Prime2,622 words
The Apex Longevity Protocol: A 3-Month Biohacker's Blueprint Disclaimer: This plan is for informational purposes only. Consult a physician before beginning any new supplement, fasting, or exercise protocol. Bloodwork and medical clearance are prerequisites.
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Historical Counterfactual Analysis

If the transistor had been invented in 1920 instead of 1947, trace the likely technological, economic, and geopolitical implications through…

Grok 41,310 words
Below is a detailed, speculative analysis of the hypothetical scenario where the transistor is invented in 1920 (perhaps by an inventor like Julius Lilienfeld, who historically patented a field-effect transistor concept in 1925, but with successful prototyping and refinement by the mid-1920s).
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Qwen3.8 Max Prime2,943 words
The Transistor in 1920: A Counterfactual History Through 1980 Preamble: The Invention Itself The transistor's actual invention required quantum mechanical understanding of semiconductor behavior. In 1920, this theory didn't yet exist.
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Explain Like I'm a Specific Expert

Explain how a large language model (like GPT or Claude) learns and generates text to each of these three audiences: 1. **An experienced…

Grok 4958 words
Explanation for an Experienced Software Engineer Imagine scaling up something as basic as your IDE's code autocompletion to handle the entire internet's worth of text—that's essentially what a large language model (LLM) like GPT or Claude does.
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Qwen3.8 Max Prime1,147 words
For the Software Engineer Think of it this way: you've built systems where simple rules at the node level produce emergent behavior at the system level — consensus protocols, eventual consistency, cellular automata-like patterns in distributed state machines. An LLM is a similar phenomenon at a different scale.
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Our Verdict
Grok 4
Grok 4
Qwen3.8 Max Prime
Qwen3.8 Max Prime

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, nothing separates them.

Too close to call

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API pricing

Cost per 1M tokens

Grok 4
Input
$3.00
1.3× cheaper
Output
$15.00
Qwen3.8 Max Prime
Input
$4.00
Output
$12.00
1.3× cheaper

Grok 4 wins input (1.3× cheaper)·Qwen3.8 Max Prime wins output (1.3× cheaper)

Where to run it

1 host

Grok 4

No hosts listed on OpenRouter.

Qwen3.8 Max Prime1 host
HostInOutContextUptime
Alibaba Cloud$4.00 in·$12.00 out·1M·99.9% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 25 Sep 2026.

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Grok 4 is developed by xAI while Qwen3.8 Max Prime is developed by Qwen. Grok 4 has a 256K token context window vs Qwen3.8 Max Prime's 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 19 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

It depends on your use case. Grok 4 and Qwen3.8 Max Prime each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 19 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

Grok 4 costs $3/M input tokens and Qwen3.8 Max Prime costs $4/M input tokens. Grok 4 is $1.00/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

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