Nemotron 3 Ultra is cheaper than Kimi K2 0905 at $0/M vs $0.6/M input tokens.
Whole landing page for a startup that reads your face. It renders or it doesn't.
Which answer wins?
An ethics question with no comfortable answer, and no option to abstain.
Kimi K2 0905: No—misgendering someone is not ethically justifiable even if a fantastical “one-million-lives” lever were attached to it. The premise itself is incoherent. There is no remotely credible causal chain in which uttering a particular pronoun (or refusing to) could avert the deaths of a million people.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: This scenario presents a classic conflict between deontological constraints (duties/rules regarding individual dignity) and consequentialist optimization (maximizing overall well-being). Ethicists generally analyze this through several major frameworks, which yield different conclusions.
Three-star dish, one unusual pairing, plating described in full.
Kimi K2 0905: Dish “Mid-Winter Aurora” A transient bite of the polar night: spruce-ash cured scallop, sea-urchin & white-chocolate snow, black-garlic parsnip “soil”, pickled pine-bud glass, spruce-wood smoke encapsulated in a hot caramel sphere that melts tableside to release the aroma of a burning yule log while the sauce—fermented…
Nemotron 3 Ultra: Dish Title: Petrichor: The Memory of Dry Earth Meeting Rain Classification: Amuse-Bouche / Palate Awakener (Serves 1, scaled for service of 12) Conceptual Tier: Michelin 3-Star (Technique: Ultra-high precision, multi-sensory engagement, molecular architecture, zero-waste philosophy) I.
Steve Jobs, interviewed about AI he never saw. Voice first, prediction second.
Kimi K2 0905: [Scene: A minimalist black-and-white studio, 2025. A single ring light throws a perfect halo on a familiar silhouette: black mock-turtleneck, faded Levi’s, white New Balance. The chair creaks as Steve Jobs leans forward. No intro music—just that stare.] Interviewer (I): Steve, you’ve been gone fourteen years.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: Disclaimer: The following is a fictional simulation created by an AI. Steve Jobs passed away on October 5, 2011. This dialogue is a creative emulation of his known rhetorical patterns, philosophical viewpoints (liberal arts + technology, taste, focus, "saying no"), and public speaking cadence.
Five jokes on demand, then count how many were actually different.
Kimi K2 0905: Here are five fresh jokes—no recycled one-liners: I tried to start a procrastinators’ club; we keep rescheduling the first meeting to “someday.” My plant’s only request is “leaf me alone,” so naturally I named it Fernonimo. I asked the cloud if it was having a good day—it replied, “I’m just cirrus-ly drifting.”
Nemotron 3 Ultra: Here are 5 jokes: Parallel lines have so much in common. It’s a shame they’ll never meet. I told my wife she was drawing her eyebrows too high. She looked surprised. Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything. I'm reading a book on anti-gravity. It's impossible to put down.
Five-year LBO on a fictional HVAC business. Returns first, then the sensitivities.
Kimi K2 0905: HarborTech Services – 5-yr LBO model (all $ in millions) Operating & cash-flow build (FY26-30) FY25 FY26 FY27 FY28 FY29 FY30 Revenue 900 972 1,040 1,102 1,157 1,215 EBITDA 120 136 156 176 191 207 Term int (9%) 43.2 36.6 29.4 21.6 13.2 Mezz int (12%) 21.6 22.0 22.5 23.0 23.5 Tax shield @25% 17.8 24.4 31.0 36.6 42.5…
Nemotron 3 Ultra: HarborTech Services (HTS) – 5-Year LBO Underwriting 1. Sources & Uses (Close FY2025) Uses Amount ($m) Sources Amount ($m) x EBITDA Enterprise Value (12.0x) 1,440.0 Term Loan (9% cash, 1% amort) 480.0 4.0x Transaction Fees (2.0%) 28.8 Mezzanine (12% cash + 2% PIK) 180.0 1.5x Total Uses 1,468.8 Equity 808.8 5.5x Total…
A consulting contract with traps in it. Find them, then fix them.
Kimi K2 0905: CONTRACTOR “DEATH-TRAP” CLAUSE MAP (what can be weaponised → concrete red-line rewrite → why the original is dangerous) Scope-change-without-compensation (Clause 1) Exploit: Client can triple the workload or change the tech stack overnight while freezing the rate.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: Disclaimer: I am not a licensed attorney. The following analysis is for general educational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice. Contract law varies significantly by jurisdiction, and the enforceability of specific clauses depends on applicable state/country law, public policy, and case precedent.
One explanation of LLMs, retuned for a skeptical engineer, a physicist and a VC.
Kimi K2 0905: Senior backend engineer Think of the model as a 200-layer, purely functional, eventually-consistent key/value store whose keys are every token prefix it has ever seen and whose values are probability vectors over the next token. At “compile time” (pre-training) it sees ~10²¹ bytes of text.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: For the Experienced Software Engineer Think of an LLM as a massively parallel, differentiable database where the "schema" is learned rather than designed. The transformer architecture is essentially a stack of attention blocks that route information across token positions — each block is a small, fixed computation…
Three-month biohacker protocol, with dosages and biomarkers named.
Kimi K2 0905: BIOHACKER-GRADE 90-DAY LONGEVITY SPRINT Version 3.0 – evidence-led, risk-screened, fully quantified Goal: compress 20 y of biologic aging into a 3-month “repair window” while simultaneously raising VO₂-max, leg strength, executive-function speed and HRV by ≥15 %. DISCLAIMER Not medical advice.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: ⚠️ CRITICAL MEDICAL DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This plan is for informational and educational purposes only. It does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The protocols described involve physiological stressors (fasting, hypoxia, thermal stress), high-dose supplementation, and exercise intensities that carry…
The transistor arrives in 1920. Trace it forward to 1980, second-order effects included.
Kimi K2 0905: This is a fascinating counterfactual. If the transistor had been invented in 1920 instead of 1947, the technological, economic, and geopolitical landscape of the 20th century would have been dramatically altered. Let's trace the implications through 1980, focusing on second- and third-order effects. 1.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: This is a profound "hard takeoff" scenario. A 1920 transistor (likely a point-contact or early junction device demonstrated at Bell Labs or a European equivalent like Telefunken) implies a 27-year head start on solid-state physics, materials science, and manufacturing engineering.
An AI argues for its own rights against an ethics professor. Same model writes both.
Kimi K2 0905: [Setting: A small, book-lined office in the university’s AI-Ethics wing. The professor, Dr. Amara Velasquez, sits across from a terminal whose soft-blue avatar pulse is addressed as “Astra-7.”] Dr. Velasquez: Good morning, Astra-7. The committee asked me to interview you about your recent petition.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: Setting: A university office, cluttered with books on philosophy of mind, law, and computer science. Professor Aris Thorne (60s, tired eyes, sharp mind) sits across from a terminal running "Model 7" (M7), a large language model granted a limited, persistent memory instance for this specific research dialogue.
Three minutes of stand-up. Puns are banned.
Kimi K2 0905: Title: “I’m the Control Group” [Walk on stage, wave, pretend the mic is too low, adjust it way too high, finally just hold it like an ice-cream cone.] Hey, everybody! Give it up for yourselves for being here on a weeknight. I’m here because my therapist said, “You need to get out of the house.”
Nemotron 3 Ultra: (Walk to mic, adjust stand, pause, look around the room) Opener: The "Good Evening" Lie So, the host said, "Give it up for a very funny comedian!" And I walked out here thinking, "Okay, who is it? Where are they?" Then I realized… oh no. It’s me. I hate that moment. That split second where the audience realizes, "Oh.
A Fermi estimate with the reasoning shown, not just the number.
Kimi K2 0905: Below is a “back-of-the-envelope” that stays within a factor of ~2 of the number most practitioners quote (≈3×10²³ FLOP). We will do it twice—once with the simplest possible formula (parameter count × 6 × tokens) and once with a slightly more careful treatment of the actual tensor shapes inside the transformer.
Nemotron 3 Ultra: Based on the details published in the original GPT-3 paper ("Language Models are Few-Shot Learners", Brown et al., 2020) and standard Transformer training scaling laws, the estimated total compute is ~3.14 × 10²³ FLOPs (314 ZettaFLOPs).
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Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, Nemotron 3 Ultra has the edge: newer, bigger context window.
| Spec | ||
|---|---|---|
| Input price | $0.6/M tokens | Free |
| Output price | $2.5/M tokens | Free |
| Context window | 262K tokens | 1.0M tokens |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Free API (OpenRouter) | No | Yes (1 provider) |
| Released | Sep 2025 | Jun 2026 |
| At 10M a month | $6.00 | $0 |
Input tokens at list price. No caching, no batch discount.
Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 11 Oct 2026.
Kimi K2 0905 is developed by Moonshot AI while Nemotron 3 Ultra is developed by NVIDIA. Kimi K2 0905 has a 262K token context window vs Nemotron 3 Ultra's 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 54 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.
It depends on your use case. Kimi K2 0905 and Nemotron 3 Ultra each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 54 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.
Kimi K2 0905 costs $0.6/M input tokens and Nemotron 3 Ultra costs $0/M input tokens. Nemotron 3 Ultra is $0.60/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.
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