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  5. Llama 3.1 405BvsQwen3.8 Max (0902)
Updated Sep 2026

Llama 3.1 405BvsQwen3.8 Max (0902)

Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is cheaper than Llama 3.1 405B at $2/M vs $2.7/M input tokens.

Llama 3.1 405B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) compared across 5 shared prompts
SpecLlama 3.1 405BQwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input price$2.7/M tokens$2/M tokens
Output price$3.1/M tokens$6/M tokens
Context window128K tokens1.0M tokens
WeightsOpenClosed
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedJul 2024Sep 2026
Our Verdict
Llama 3.1 405B
Llama 3.1 405B
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, nothing separates them.

Too close to call
API pricing

Cost per 1M tokens

Llama 3.1 405B
Input
$2.70
Output
$3.10
1.9× cheaper
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input
$2.00
1.4× cheaper
Output
$6.00

Qwen3.8 Max (0902) wins input (1.4× cheaper)·Llama 3.1 405B wins output (1.9× cheaper)

Where to run it

1 host

Llama 3.1 405B

No hosts listed on OpenRouter.

Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1 host
HostInOutContextUptime
Alibaba Cloud$2.00 in·$6.00 out·1M·100% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 22 Sep 2026.

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FAQ

Common questions

Llama 3.1 405B is developed by Meta AI while Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is developed by Qwen. Llama 3.1 405B has a 128K token context window vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 5 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

It depends on your use case. Llama 3.1 405B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 5 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

Llama 3.1 405B costs $2.7/M input tokens and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) costs $2/M input tokens. Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is $0.70/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

This page shows a side-by-side comparison of Llama 3.1 405B and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) across shared challenges. You can vote on which model produced the better output in a blind duel. Browsing and voting are free. No account is needed to look; signing in only saves your votes and likes.

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