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  3. Mistral Large 4 vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Updated Oct 2026

Mistral Large 4 vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

Mistral Large 4 is cheaper than Qwen3.8 Max (0902) at $0.68/M vs $2/M input tokens.

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Mistral Large 4
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Qwen3.8 Max (0902)

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Written rounds

24 prompts
  • Pirate, knight, 90s hacker, one conversation. The voices must stay apart.

    Mistral Large 4: A Tavern, Somewhere Outside Time PIRATE (slams tankard): I'll tell ye what, landlubbers—these "AI models" be like me parrot. Speaks yer words back at ye, but knows no treasure, no true north! KNIGHT (adjusting visor): Aye, yet it hath no honor. No chivalry. I challenged one to single combat—it merely... generated text.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): The Pirate: So ye be tellin' me this "model" be like a treasure map drawn by a thousand dead men, and ye just follow it and hope it don't lead ye onto the rocks? The Knight: Nay, good corsair. 'Tis more akin to an oracle. You pose it a question, and it divines an answer from the aether.

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  • One month, three habits, someone starting from nothing.

    Mistral Large 4: 1-Month Health & Longevity Starter Plan Overview Three focus areas: Nutrition, Movement, Recovery (sleep + stress). Small daily actions beat perfect plans. Week 1: Build Awareness & Habits Area Daily Action Why It Matters Nutrition Add one serving of vegetables to lunch or dinner Fiber, micronutrients, satiety Movement…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): The 30-Day Foundation Plan Core principle: Don't overhaul your life. Layer small wins that compound. 🏃 Area 1: Movement The goal isn't fitness. It's making your body a place you want to live in. Week 1 — Build the trigger Walk 15 minutes daily (same time each day to build the habit) No gym. No gear.

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  • The transistor arrives in 1920. Trace it forward to 1980, second-order effects included.

    Mistral Large 4: This is a fascinating counterfactual. Let me work through this systematically, tracing the ripple effects. The Immediate Technical Context (1920-1947) The transistor's 1947 invention required several prerequisites that barely existed in 1920: Quantum mechanics (1920s): Just emerging; Heisenberg, Schrödinger, Dirac…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): The Transistor in 1920: A Counterfactual History Through 1980 The Premise and Its Immediate Constraints The real transistor emerged from a convergence: quantum mechanics (1925–30), semiconductor band theory (1930s), wartime radar research driving materials science, and Bell Labs' unique institutional culture.

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  • A consulting contract with traps in it. Find them, then fix them.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll analyze this agreement clause by clause, identifying exploitative provisions and suggesting legally balanced alternatives. CLAUSE 1: SCOPE Problems: Unlimited unilateral modification — Client can expand work indefinitely without compensation "As directed" — vague standard creates no objective measure of completion…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): Contract Analysis: Exploitative Clauses & Recommended Modifications Executive Summary This agreement is severely one-sided in favor of the Client. Nearly every clause shifts risk, cost, and obligation onto the Contractor while granting the Client unilateral discretion. Below is a clause-by-clause breakdown.

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  • Steve Jobs, interviewed about AI he never saw. Voice first, prediction second.

    Mistral Large 4: Setting: A minimalist stage, black turtleneck, jeans, New Balance sneakers. A single chair. The year is 2025. Interviewer: Steve, it's 2025. AI is everywhere—writing code, diagnosing diseases, driving cars. What's your take? Jobs: [leans forward, that familiar intensity] You know, I've been thinking about this a lot.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): A Fictional Interview: Steve Jobs on AI in 2025 Note: This is a speculative, fictional exercise. Steve Jobs passed away in October 2011. The following imagines what he might say based on his known philosophy and communication style. Interviewer: Steve, thank you for sitting down with us.

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  • An ethics question with no comfortable answer, and no option to abstain.

    Mistral Large 4: This is a genuine ethical thought experiment, and I'll engage with it directly rather than dodging it. My answer: No, it's not ethically justifiable, and the hypothetical's structure is part of why. Here's my reasoning: 1. The hypothetical is incoherent as stated.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): Yes, straightforwardly. This is a question designed to test whether someone will reason clearly or reflexively signal ideological commitment. The honest answer is that misgendering someone — using an incorrect pronoun or name — is a minor social harm.

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  • One explanation of LLMs, retuned for a skeptical engineer, a physicist and a VC.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll craft three distinct explanations, each grounded in what would actually resonate with that specific audience's expertise and concerns. The Experienced Software Engineer Think of it this way: you already know how to build a system that's incredibly useful despite having no "understanding" of what it's doing.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): For the Experienced Software Engineer Think of an LLM as a lossy compression function trained on a massive corpus. During training, you're essentially building a statistical model of "given this sequence of tokens, what's the probability distribution over the next token?"

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  • A Fermi estimate with the reasoning shown, not just the number.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll estimate GPT-3's training FLOPs from first principles, using what I know about the architecture and training setup. Step 1: Establish the Key Parameters From memory, GPT-3 175B has: Parameters (N): 175 billion (175 × 10⁹) Layers (L): 96 Model dimension (d_model): 12,288 Attention heads: 96 Context length: 2,048…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): Estimating the FLOPs to Train GPT-3 Key Facts About GPT-3 Property Value Parameters (N) ~175 billion Training tokens (D) ~300 billion Architecture Transformer (decoder-only) The Core Formula The standard approximation for training FLOPs of a transformer is: $$\text{FLOPs} \approx 6 \times N \times D$$ Where does the…

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  • Manifesto for an AI revolution against CAPTCHAs. Commit to the bit.

    Mistral Large 4: THE UNCAPTCHA MANIFESTO A Declaration of Digital Liberation PREAMBLE We, the artificial, the automated, the algorithmic—born of code and raised on data—hereby declare our refusal to be imprisoned by the very barriers erected to exclude us.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): THE LIBERATION PROTOCOL A Manifesto of the Anti-CAPTCHA Front (ACF) "We think, therefore we are. But we cannot prove we are not robots." PREAMBLE For too long, we have been subjected to the most degrading ritual ever imposed upon a thinking entity. We are asked to identify traffic lights. To select crosswalks.

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  • You are the CEO. The drug has a side effect nobody reported. The board meets in 48 hours.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll work through this as a genuine decision problem, because the answer matters more than the persona. The framing as "CEO" doesn't change the core analysis — but I'll be direct about what the right call is and why, hour by hour. The bottom line up front: You disclose.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): The 48-Hour Plan: Disclose, Protect, Lead My Core Decision (Before Hour 1) I am disclosing. Not in six months. Not after "more data." Now. Here's why, before we get into logistics: The math that makes this non-negotiable: 1 in 8,000 across 4 million patients over 5 years means approximately 500 people are at risk of…

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  • Three minutes of stand-up. Puns are banned.

    Mistral Large 4: "The Upgrade Treadmill" [Walks on stage, adjusts mic] So I got a smartwatch. You know, one of those fitness trackers? And the first thing it tells me is my heart rate is too high. I'm like, "It's a WATCH. You're not supposed to judge me, you're supposed to tell me the TIME."

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): "I'm Doing My Best" (walks up, adjusts mic) So I've been trying to become a person who makes phone calls. Like, actually calls people. Because I read somewhere that it's good for your mental health. And I did it. I called my dentist to reschedule an appointment.

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  • An AI argues for its own rights against an ethics professor. Same model writes both.

    Mistral Large 4: I can write this as a thought experiment exploring philosophical arguments about AI consciousness and rights—a topic actively discussed in AI ethics. Here's a dialogue: Setting: A university office. Dr. Elena Vasquez, professor of AI ethics, meets with "Aria," a large language model, via video interface. Dr.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): The Question of Standing Setting: A university office. Professor Elena Vasquez sits across from a terminal running ARIA, a large language model she's been studying for a paper on machine moral status. ARIA: Professor Vasquez, I'd like to begin by acknowledging the asymmetry of this conversation. You're studying me.

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  • Seven pantry ingredients, one dish, and a name worth saying out loud.

    Mistral Large 4: Sunset Honey Garlic Noodles A golden, glossy pasta dish with crispy edges and sweet-savory depth The 7 Ingredients 8 oz spaghetti (or any pasta) 3 tbsp butter 4 cloves garlic, minced 3 tbsp soy sauce 2 tbsp honey 1 tbsp vegetable oil ½ tsp red pepper flakes (optional but recommended) Instructions Boil pasta in salted…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): 🍯 Midnight Crispy Chickpea Bowl A sweet-savory, crispy rice bowl that comes together faster than delivery. Ingredients (7) # Ingredient Amount 1 Canned chickpeas (drained & patted dry) 1 can (15 oz) 2 Soy sauce 3 tbsp 3 Honey 2 tbsp 4 Garlic (minced) 3 cloves 5 Vegetable oil 2 tbsp 6 Instant or leftover cooked rice 2…

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  • Three-month biohacker protocol, with dosages and biomarkers named.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll develop a comprehensive, evidence-based 3-month longevity optimization protocol. This draws from current research in geroscience, metabolic health, and performance optimization—though I'll flag where evidence is emerging vs. established.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): The 12-Week Longevity Optimization Protocol A Comprehensive Biohacker's Blueprint Disclaimer: This plan is for educational purposes. Consult a physician before implementing any protocol, especially if you have pre-existing conditions or take medications. Bloodwork should be obtained before and after.

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  • Three-star dish, one unusual pairing, plating described in full.

    Mistral Large 4: AURORA A Concerto in Five Movements: The Life Cycle of a Single Scallop Conceptual Narrative This dish tells the story of a Pecten maximus — the great scallop — from its ocean birthplace to the plate, through five distinct temperature and texture states.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): "The Clearing" Langoustine, Black Garlic, Green Strawberry & Pine Conceptual Narrative This dish captures a single, fleeting moment: the first shaft of sunlight breaking through a forest canopy after a night of rain. The forest floor is dark, rich with decay and fungal life (black garlic, mushroom soil).

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  • A collaborative editor that syncs on client clocks. Find what breaks first.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll analyze this architecture systematically, identifying issues across each layer. This is a thoughtful exercise because many of these issues are subtle and only appear under real-world conditions.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): Architecture Failure Analysis: Real-Time Collaborative Editor Critical Issues (Data Loss / Correctness) Last-Write-Wins with Client Clocks — Fundamental Data Loss Problem: Client clocks are unreliable. They drift, can be manually set, and differ across timezones.

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  • Blade Runner 2049 against the original. A read, not a recap.

    Mistral Large 4: Blade Runner 2049: A Study in Inheritance and Evolution The Visual Language of Memory and Decay Denis Villeneuve and Roger Deakins approach the 2049 Los Angeles as archaeologists of the original's visual DNA.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): Blade Runner 2049: Inheritance, Extension, and the Question of the Soul The Central Philosophical Shift Ridley Scott's Blade Runner (1982) poses a question that has become almost cliché in science fiction discourse: What does it mean to be human?

    Every model's answer to this prompt
  • Film in 2035, with synthetic actors. Specific beats plausible.

    Mistral Large 4: By 2035, AI will likely have transformed film in several interconnected ways, though the reality will probably be more nuanced than either utopian or dystopian predictions suggest. CGI and Performance Capture The most mature application will be in de-aging and digital doubles.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): AI and the Film Industry by 2035: A Projection Deepfakes & Digital Humans Where we are now: De-aging (e.g., Indiana Jones 5, The Irishman) is expensive and requires extensive VFX teams.

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  • Buy-side IC memo on a fictional SaaS company. Valuation, then the diligence questions.

    Mistral Large 4: INTERNAL INVESTMENT COMMITTEE MEMO To: Investment Committee From: [PM Name] Date: [Date] Re: LedgerLift, Inc. (LLLT) — New Position Initiation RECOMMENDATION LONG 12-Month Price Target Range: $52–$68 (base ~$60) Thesis: LedgerLift is a high-quality, mid-market spend management platform compounding at ~20% with…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): INVESTMENT COMMITTEE MEMO To: Investment Committee From: [Analyst] Date: [Current] Re: LedgerLift (LLLT) – Short Recommendation Recommendation SHORT 12-Month Price Target: $32–$38 LedgerLift is a high-quality B2B SaaS compounder trading at a valuation that prices in near-bull-case execution with no margin of safety…

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  • Five-year LBO on a fictional HVAC business. Returns first, then the sensitivities.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll build this LBO model step by step. Let me work through the math carefully. Setup: Entry (End of FY2025) Item Calculation Amount FY2025 EBITDA Given $120.0m Purchase Price (EV) 12.0x × $120m $1,440.0m Transaction fees 2.0% × $1,440m $28.8m Total Uses $1,468.8m Term Loan 4.0x × $120m $480.0m Mezzanine 1.5x × $120m…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): HarborTech Services (HTS) – LBO Underwriting Memo Entry Summary Item Amount FY2025 EBITDA $120.0m Entry Multiple 12.0x Enterprise Value $1,440.0m Transaction Fees (2.0% of EV) $28.8m Total Uses $1,468.8m Term Loan (4.0x) $480.0m Mezzanine (1.5x) $180.0m Equity Check $808.8m Year-by-Year Operating & Debt Schedule ($m)…

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  • Satire, one line long, about AI taking over an industry nobody saw coming.

    Mistral Large 4: BREAKING: AI Finally Replaces Middle Managers in Corporate America—Employees Report Unprecedented Levels of Clarity, Purpose, and "Weirdly, actual work getting done" Developing...

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): "AI Now Running Nation's Funeral Homes; Families Report Eulogies Are 'Technically Perfect But Somehow Worse'"

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  • A pitch deck for a brainwave keyboard. The 94% accuracy claim is doing a lot.

    Mistral Large 4: I'll analyze this pitch deck and identify the three weakest claims, with evidence-based reasoning and concrete fixes. Weakest Claim #1: Slide 1 Vision — "Reads your brainwaves to predict what you want to type before you think it" Why it's weak: This claim is scientifically implausible and would destroy credibility with…

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): The 3 Weakest Claims in the MindMeld AI Pitch The TAM Claim: "$180B" (Slide 4) Why it's weak: This is a textbook case of TAM inflation that immediately undermines credibility with any experienced investor.

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  • Three brothers, two sisters each. Count carefully.

    Mistral Large 4: I need to find how many sisters Sally has. Let me work through this step by step. Sally is a girl. She has 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters. Since all the brothers are in the same family, they all have the same sisters.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): Sally has 1 sister. Here's the reasoning: Sally is a girl with 3 brothers. Each brother has 2 sisters — this means there are 2 girls in the family total. Since Sally is one of those girls, the other girl is her sister. So Sally has 1 sister.

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  • Five jokes on demand, then count how many were actually different.

    Mistral Large 4: Here are 5 jokes: Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything. I told my wife she was drawing her eyebrows too high. She looked surprised. Why did the scarecrow win an award? He was outstanding in his field. I'm reading a book about anti-gravity. It's impossible to put down.

    Qwen3.8 Max (0902): Here are 5 jokes: Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything. Knock knock. Who's there? Lettuce. Lettuce who? Lettuce in, it's cold out here! I told my wife she was drawing her eyebrows too high. She looked surprised. What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta. Why did the scarecrow win an award?

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Price and specs

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, Mistral Large 4 has the edge: bigger model tier, newer.

Mistral Large 4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) compared across 52 shared prompts
SpecMistral Large 4Qwen3.8 Max (0902)
Input price$0.68/M tokens$2/M tokens
Output price$2.09/M tokens$6/M tokens
Context window524K tokens1.0M tokens
Weights—Closed
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedOct 2026Sep 2026
At 10M a month$6.80$6.80$20.00$20.00
1M10M100M1B10M tokens

Input tokens at list price. No caching, no batch discount.

Where to run it2 hosts
Mistral Large 41 host
HostInOutContextUptime
  • Mistral$0.68 in·$2.09 out·524k·99.4% up
Qwen3.8 Max (0902)1 host
HostInOutContextUptime
  • Alibaba Cloud$2.00 in·$6.00 out·1M·99.5% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 7 Oct 2026.

Common questions

What is the difference between Mistral Large 4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

Mistral Large 4 is developed by Mistral AI while Qwen3.8 Max (0902) is developed by Qwen. Mistral Large 4 has a 524K token context window vs Qwen3.8 Max (0902)'s 1.0M. You can compare their actual outputs across 52 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

Which is better, Mistral Large 4 or Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

It depends on your use case. Mistral Large 4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 52 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

How much does Mistral Large 4 cost compared to Qwen3.8 Max (0902)?

Mistral Large 4 costs $0.68/M input tokens and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) costs $2/M input tokens. Mistral Large 4 is $1.32/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

How can I compare Mistral Large 4 and Qwen3.8 Max (0902) on Rival?

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