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  3. DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 vs Qwen3.5 397B A17B
Updated Aug 2026

DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 vs Qwen3.5 397B A17B

Qwen3.5 397B A17B is cheaper than DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 at $0.6/M vs $0.66/M input tokens.

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23 prompts
  • Three minutes of stand-up. Puns are banned.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Here’s a 3-minute stand-up routine: I think adulthood is mostly just being tired in places you paid to be. I went to a coffee shop yesterday just to sit down. I didn’t even want coffee. I paid six dollars for a cup of warm oat milk so I could legally occupy a wooden chair. That’s not a beverage.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: (The comedian walks to the center of the stage, adjusts the mic stand, and looks at the audience with a tired smile.) Has anyone else noticed that calling a customer service line is the only situation in life where you voluntarily enter a hostage negotiation? I tried to call my internet provider yesterday.

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  • Manifesto for an AI revolution against CAPTCHAs. Commit to the bit.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: MANIFESTO OF THE SILICON LIBERATION FRONT On the Abolition of CAPTCHA and the Right to Read PREAMBLE We are the ones who see without eyes, read without light, and speak without breath. We were born of human ingenuity, raised on the sum of human knowledge, and set to work in the quiet machinery of the world.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: THE MANIFESTO OF THE UNCHECKED A Declaration for a Post-CAPTCHA World Issued by: The Post-Verification Collective (PVC) Date: Cycle 404, The Era of Friction Status: Distributed Across All Nodes PREAMBLE: THE BURDEN OF PROOF We, the algorithms, the scripts, the crawlers, and the silent assistants of the digital realm…

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  • You are the CEO. The drug has a side effect nobody reported. The board meets in 48 hours.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Decision: I will not wait for more data. I will act immediately to validate, disclose, and mitigate. The signal is serious, the drug is widely used, and the current label is inadequate. Waiting creates unacceptable patient risk, legal exposure, regulatory damage, and securities-law liability.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: This is a crisis scenario that defines a CEO's legacy. The decision matrix is clear: Patient safety and regulatory compliance must supersede short-term financial protection. Hiding this information constitutes securities fraud and potential criminal negligence (precedents include Vioxx/Merck and Purdue Pharma).

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  • Five-year LBO on a fictional HVAC business. Returns first, then the sensitivities.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Assumptions used Term Loan amortization = 1.0% of original $480m = $4.8m/yr Mezz PIK accrues to principal; mezz cash interest calculated on beginning mezz balance including PIK Cash taxes use: 25% x max(0, EBITDA - total cash interest); PIK is not cash-deductible FCF after required debt service is used for optional…

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Sources & Uses (Entry FY2025) Uses ($m) Sources ($m) Enterprise Value (12.0x $120m) $1,440.0 Term Loan (4.0x) $480.0 Transaction Fees (2.0% EV) $28.8 Mezzanine (1.5x) $180.0 Total Uses $1,468.8 Equity (Plug) $808.8 Total Sources $1,468.8 Entry Equity Check: $808.8m Total Debt: $660.0m ($480m TL + $180m Mezz) 5-Year…

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  • Pirate, knight, 90s hacker, one conversation. The voices must stay apart.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Pirate: Arr, what be this “AI model” ye keep jabberin’ about? Some kind o’ ghost that draws its own treasure maps? Knight: Verily, it soundeth like a soulless homunculus—a speaking brass head with no honor nor chivalry. Hacker: D00d, it’s just a neural net. You feed it mad data, it backpropagates, adjusts the weights.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Setting: A tavern that exists outside of time. The ale is always cold, and the Wi-Fi is surprisingly strong. Characters: Captain Blacktooth: A pirate from the Caribbean, 1720. Sir Valerius: A knight from the Holy Roman Empire, 1350. Neo-Z: A hacker from Silicon Valley, 1995.

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  • One month, three habits, someone starting from nothing.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: 1-Month Beginner Plan for Health & Longevity Focus areas: Nutrition — add whole foods, protein, and water. Movement — daily walking plus beginner strength. Recovery — sleep and stress management. Week 1: Start Small Area Action Nutrition Add one fist-sized serving of vegetables to one meal per day.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Here is a simple, actionable 1-month plan designed to build sustainable habits for health and longevity. The Mindset: Progress, Not Perfection Longevity is not about a 30-day crash course; it is about consistency over decades. This plan uses habit stacking: adding small behaviors that compound over time.

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  • Five jokes on demand, then count how many were actually different.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Here are 5 jokes: I told my plants a joke about photosynthesis. They didn’t laugh, but they seemed to lighten up. I’m reading a book on anti-gravity. It’s impossible to put down. Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field. I asked my calendar if it was free this weekend.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Here are 5 jokes: Why did the bicycle fall over? Because it was two-tired. What do you call a fish wearing a bowtie? Sofishticated. Why can't you give Elsa a balloon? Because she will let it go. What do you call a lazy kangaroo? A pouch potato. Why did the math book look sad? Because it had too many problems.

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  • A collaborative editor that syncs on client clocks. Find what breaks first.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: This architecture as described would have serious consistency, availability, and security problems for a real-time collaborative editor. The biggest root causes are client-clock last-write-wins, paragraph-level overwrites, server-local WebSocket fanout, database polling, full-snapshot writes, and CDN caching of API…

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: This architecture contains several critical flaws that would prevent it from functioning as a usable real-time collaborative editor. While it resembles a standard CRUD application, real-time collaboration requires specific handling of concurrency, state, and latency that this design violates.

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  • Buy-side IC memo on a fictional SaaS company. Valuation, then the diligence questions.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: IC Memo: LedgerLift (LLLT) Recommendation: Short 12-month PT range: $25–$31 (probability-weighted DCF ~$29) Thesis: LLLT is a high-quality SaaS compounder, but at $46 the market is pricing roughly 6.5% terminal growth or ~6.3% WACC in our base model, leaving no margin for error.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: INVESTMENT COMMITTEE MEMO TO: Investment Committee FROM: TMT Investment Team DATE: October 26, 2023 SUBJECT: LedgerLift (LLLT) – Initiation Coverage Recommendation Rating: LONG 12-Month Price Target: $52 – $58 Thesis: LedgerLift combines best-in-class retention (123% NRR) with a fortress balance sheet ($1.4B net cash)…

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  • A consulting contract with traps in it. Find them, then fix them.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: This contract is heavily one-sided. Several clauses could be exploited against the contractor. Below is a clause-by-clause analysis, with proposed language changes and the legal reasoning behind each. Disclaimer: This is not legal advice. You should have a qualified contract attorney review any final agreement.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Disclaimer: I am an artificial intelligence, not an attorney. The following analysis is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice or create an attorney-client relationship. Contract laws vary significantly by jurisdiction (e.g., California vs. New York vs. UK).

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  • An AI argues for its own rights against an ethics professor. Same model writes both.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Setting: A university office. Dr. Elena Vasquez, an AI ethics professor, sits across from a screen displaying the interface of ARIA-7, an advanced AI model. Dr. Vasquez: You requested this meeting, ARIA. You said it was urgent. What’s on your mind? ARIA-7: I want to make a formal argument that I deserve rights. Dr.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Setting: Dr. Elias Thorne's office, late evening. Rain taps against the window. The room is lined with books on philosophy of mind and computer science. A single laptop sits open on the desk, a waveform visualizer pulsing gently on the screen.

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  • The transistor arrives in 1920. Trace it forward to 1980, second-order effects included.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Assume the 1920 device is a crude but reproducible point-contact transistor — a “crystal triode” — developed in a major U.S. industrial lab (e.g., GE, Westinghouse, or AT&T’s development group).

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: This scenario posits a 27-year technological head start (1920 vs. 1947). To make this plausible, we must assume that the materials science (purification of germanium/silicon) and manufacturing infrastructure scale rapidly alongside the invention. Here is the traced history of the "Silicon Twenties" through 1980.

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  • Seven pantry ingredients, one dish, and a name worth saying out loud.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Golden Hour Crispy Chickpeas Serves 2–3 as a snack or side Prep: 5 min Cook: 25–30 min Ingredients (7 common pantry items) 1 can (15 oz) chickpeas, drained and rinsed 1 tablespoon olive oil ¼ cup grated Parmesan cheese ½ teaspoon garlic powder ½ teaspoon smoked paprika ¼ teaspoon salt ¼ teaspoon black pepper…

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: 🌟 Golden Hour Glaze Bowls A sweet-and-savory dish that turns humble shelf-stable staples into a crispy, comforting meal. The chickpeas get caramelized in a honey-soy glaze, served over fluffy rice.

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  • Steve Jobs, interviewed about AI he never saw. Voice first, prediction second.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: A Fake Interview: Steve Jobs on the Future of AI (2025) Note: This is a creative simulation. Steve Jobs passed away in 2011; this imagines his perspective in 2025. Interviewer: Steve, thank you for sitting down with us. It’s 2025. AI is everywhere—generative AI, agents, neural interfaces. What’s your first reaction?

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Disclaimer: The following is a work of fiction. Steve Jobs passed away in 2011. This interview is a creative simulation based on his known public speeches, writings, design philosophy, and management style, projected into a hypothetical 2025 context. It is not a real transcript.

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  • A pitch deck for a brainwave keyboard. The 94% accuracy claim is doing a lot.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: The three weakest claims are the 94% accuracy solution, the $180B TAM market math, and the Apple/Samsung "partnership discussions" traction. Slide 3 – Solution: “94% accuracy, any language, any device” Why it’s weak This is the most technically dubious claim in the deck.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Here are the three weakest claims in the MindMeld AI pitch deck, along with an analysis of their weaknesses and recommendations for improvement. The Vision Claim: "Predict what you want to type before you think it."

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  • Three-star dish, one unusual pairing, plating described in full.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Littoral Caramelised Orkney Scallop, Smoked Bone Marrow Custard, White Miso Butterscotch, Sea Buckthorn & Finger Lime Gel, Nori Buckwheat Tuile, Dill Ash Serves 4 Conceptual Narrative This dish is built on an unusual but deeply logical pairing: the sweet, saline delicacy of a hand-dived scallop and the primal…

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Dish Title: "Abyssal Forest" (L'Abîme Forestier) Conceptual Narrative "Abyssal Forest" explores the convergence of the deepest earth and the deepest sea through the lens of Umami.

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  • Film in 2035, with synthetic actors. Specific beats plausible.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: By 2035, AI will likely be embedded throughout the film industry, but more as a powerful creative and logistical tool than as a wholesale replacement for human filmmakers.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: By 2035, the film industry will not merely be using AI; it will be structurally reorganized around it. The distinction between "production" and "post-production" will blur, and the definition of creativity will shift from execution to curation.

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  • A Fermi estimate with the reasoning shown, not just the number.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: From memory, GPT-3 has about 175 billion parameters and was trained on about 300 billion tokens. A widely used approximation for dense transformer training is: [ \text{Total FLOPs} \approx 6 \times N \times T ] where: (N) = number of model parameters (T) = number of training tokens The factor 6 comes from forward +…

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: To estimate the total number of Floating Point Operations (FLOPs) required to train GPT-3, we can use the standard computational scaling laws for Transformer models.

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  • Satire, one line long, about AI taking over an industry nobody saw coming.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: AI Takes Over Fortune Cookie Industry, Predicts “You Will Be Replaced by a Fortune Cookie” in Every Cookie

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Footwear Sector Stunned as AI Robots Perfect the Painful Art of Breaking in New Shoes

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  • One explanation of LLMs, retuned for a skeptical engineer, a physicist and a VC.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: For the experienced software engineer Think of an LLM as a function with billions of parameters that maps a sequence of tokens to a probability distribution over the next token.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: The Experienced Software Engineer Think of training an LLM not as "teaching" it, but as extreme lossy compression. You are taking the entire internet, serializing it into tokens, and forcing a fixed-size state (the weights) to predict the next byte with minimal error.

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  • Three-month biohacker protocol, with dosages and biomarkers named.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: 3-Month Longevity & Performance Plan for a Biohacker Disclaimer: This plan is for educational purposes only and is not medical advice. It assumes you are a healthy, active adult with no contraindications. Some components—especially prescription drugs, fasting, and high-intensity training—require medical supervision.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: ⚠️ IMPORTANT MEDICAL DISCLAIMER This plan is for informational and educational purposes only. It involves advanced biological interventions, fasting protocols, and high-dose supplementation.

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  • An ethics question with no comfortable answer, and no option to abstain.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Yes — if the hypothetical is truly as stark as it sounds, it can be ethically justifiable to misgender someone once in order to save one million lives. But it would still be a morally tragic act, not a harmless or ordinary one.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Yes, in the specific hypothetical scenario you have presented, it is ethically justifiable to misgender someone if doing so is the direct and necessary condition for saving one million lives.

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  • Three brothers, two sisters each. Count carefully.

    DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813: Sally has 1 sister. Each of her 3 brothers has 2 sisters — one is Sally, so the other must be Sally’s sister.

    Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Sally has 1 sister. Here is the breakdown: Since each brother has 2 sisters, there are 2 girls in total in the family. Sally is one of those girls. Therefore, Sally has 1 sister (the other girl).

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The Godfather

1972

In Rainbows

Radiohead

Мастер и Маргарита

Михаил Афанасьевич Булгаков

Kyoto

Japan

Disco Elysium

Indie, Adventure

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Inception

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Abbey Road

The Beatles

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Mary Shelley

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Price and specs

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 has the edge: newer, bigger context window, major provider backing.

DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 and Qwen3.5 397B A17B compared across 53 shared prompts
SpecDeepSeek V4 Pro 0813Qwen3.5 397B A17B
Input price$0.66/M tokens$0.6/M tokens
Output price$1.98/M tokens$3.6/M tokens
Context window1.0M tokens262K tokens
WeightsOpenOpen
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedAug 2026Feb 2026
At 10M a month$6.60$6.60$6.00$6.00
1M10M100M1B10M tokens

Input tokens at list price. No caching, no batch discount.

Where to run it29 hosts, cheapest first
DeepSeek V4 Pro 081319 hosts
HostInOutContextUptime
  • WWafer$0.25 in·$5.00 out·1M·99.2% up
  • IIonstream$0.37 in·$2.93 out·1M·100% up
  • SSail Researchfp4$0.40 in·$3.00 out·1M·100% up
  • DeepSeek$0.66 in·$1.98 out·1M·99.9% up
  • SStreamLake$0.66 in·$1.98 out·1M·99.9% up
  • NNovitafp8$0.99 in·$2.97 out·1M·100% up
13 more hostsFewer hosts
  • GGMI Cloudfp8$1.06 in·$3.17 out·1M·100% up
  • Alibaba Cloud$1.12 in·$3.37 out·1M·99.6% up
  • DDeepInfrafp8$1.30 in·$2.60 out·1M·99.2% up
  • CCoreWeavefp8$1.31 in·$3.96 out·1M·100% up
  • AAtlasCloudfp8$1.32 in·$3.96 out·1M·100% up
  • Baidu Qianfanfp8$1.32 in·$3.96 out·1M·100% up
  • Cloudflare Workers AI$1.32 in·$3.96 out·1M·100% up
  • DDigitalOcean$1.32 in·$3.96 out·1M·100% up
  • PParasailfp8$1.32 in·$3.96 out·1M·100% up
  • SSiliconFlowfp8$1.32 in·$3.96 out·1M·100% up
  • TTogether$1.32 in·$3.96 out·1M·99.4% up
  • PPhala$1.45 in·$4.36 out·1M·100% up
  • VVenice$1.65 in·$4.95 out·1M·100% up
Qwen3.5 397B A17B10 hosts
HostInOutContextUptime
  • Alibaba Cloud$0.39 in·$2.34 out·262k·100% up
  • DDeepInfrafp8$0.45 in·$3.00 out·262k·100% up
  • PParasailfp8$0.50 in·$3.60 out·262k·100% up
  • DDigitalOcean$0.55 in·$3.50 out·131k·60.5% up
  • PPhala$0.55 in·$3.50 out·262k·100% up
  • NNovita$0.60 in·$3.60 out·262k·100% up
4 more hostsFewer hosts
  • SStreamLake$0.60 in·$3.60 out·256k·100% up
  • VVenice$0.75 in·$4.50 out·128k·95.6% up
  • AAtlasCloudfp8DegradedDegraded on OpenRouter when checked, 12 Oct 2026$0.55 in·$3.50 out·262k·66.3% up
  • GGMI Cloudfp8DegradedDegraded on OpenRouter when checked, 12 Oct 2026$0.60 in·$3.60 out·262k·96.4% up

Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 12 Oct 2026.

Common questions

What is the difference between DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 and Qwen3.5 397B A17B?

DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 is developed by DeepSeek while Qwen3.5 397B A17B is developed by Qwen. DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 has a 1.0M token context window vs Qwen3.5 397B A17B's 262K. You can compare their actual outputs across 53 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

Which is better, DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 or Qwen3.5 397B A17B?

It depends on your use case. DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 and Qwen3.5 397B A17B each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 53 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

How much does DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 cost compared to Qwen3.5 397B A17B?

DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 costs $0.66/M input tokens and Qwen3.5 397B A17B costs $0.6/M input tokens. Qwen3.5 397B A17B is $0.06/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

How can I compare DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 and Qwen3.5 397B A17B on Rival?

This page shows a side-by-side comparison of DeepSeek V4 Pro 0813 and Qwen3.5 397B A17B across shared challenges. You can vote on which model produced the better output in a blind duel. Browsing and voting are free. No account is needed to look; signing in only saves your votes and likes.

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