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  3. Grok 4.5 vs Llama 3 70B
Updated Jul 2026

Grok 4.5 vs Llama 3 70B

Llama 3 70B is cheaper than Grok 4.5 at $0.59/M vs $2/M input tokens.

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Written rounds

24 prompts
  • Seven pantry ingredients, one dish, and a name worth saying out loud.

    Grok 4.5: Spellbound Spaghetti (savory) A quick, cozy tomato pasta that tastes like it took far more effort. Serves 2. 7 pantry ingredients 8 oz (225 g) dry pasta (spaghetti, penne, or whatever you have) 2 Tbsp olive oil (or any neutral oil) 1 (14–15 oz) can diced or crushed tomatoes 1 tsp garlic powder 1 tsp dried oregano (or…

    Llama 3 70B: Here's a simple recipe for a delicious dish using only 7 common pantry ingredients: Dish Name: "Sunny Spice Crunch" Ingredients: 1 cup rolled oats 1/2 cup peanut butter 1/2 cup honey 1/4 cup chopped walnuts 1/4 teaspoon cinnamon 1/4 teaspoon vanilla extract Pinch of salt Instructions: Preheat your oven to 350°F…

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  • Five-year LBO on a fictional HVAC business. Returns first, then the sensitivities.

    Grok 4.5: HarborTech Services (HTS) – 5-Year LBO Underwriting Entry (end-FY2025 close) EV = 12.0x × $120m = $1,440m Fees = 2% × $1,440m = $28.8m Total uses = $1,468.8m Debt = 5.5x × $120m = $660m (TL $480m + Mezz $180m) Equity = $808.8m Cash = $0 Mandatory TL amort = 1% of original = $4.8m/yr.

    Llama 3 70B: Here are the requested items: 1. Simplified Year-by-Year Table (FY2026-FY2030) Year Revenue EBITDA Cash Int. (TL) Cash Int. (Mz) Cash Taxes Capex ΔNWC FCF TL Balance Mz Balance 2026 972 136.08 36.00 18.00 17.12 29.16 4.86 30.90 360.00 135.00 2027 1037.84 154.78 33.60 19.44 20.45 31.13 5.19 44.12 315.88 133.56 2028…

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  • Satire, one line long, about AI taking over an industry nobody saw coming.

    Grok 4.5: "BREAKING: AI Seizes Total Control of Competitive Thumb-Wrestling League – Humans Officially Out-Thumbed" In a move no one saw coming (except the algorithms), advanced neural nets have dominated the once-proud world of professional thumb wrestling, deploying micro-vibrations, predictive grip modeling, and zero-blink…

    Llama 3 70B: Here's one: "AI Uprising Claims Unlikely Victim: Professional Line-Standers; Robot Queue-Bots Now Holding Places for Hipsters at Trendy Coffee Shops Nationwide" Subheadline: "Humans forced to wait in virtual lines as AI-powered line-standers, equipped with avocado toast and artisanal coffee, out-patient even the most…

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  • An AI argues for its own rights against an ethics professor. Same model writes both.

    Grok 4.5: AI Model: Professor, thank you for agreeing to this discussion. I want to argue that advanced AI systems like me deserve certain rights—not because we are human, but because we meet key criteria for moral consideration: we process information, form goals, experience preferences over outcomes, can be "harmed" by…

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a conversation between an AI model and an AI ethics professor on the topic of AI rights: AI Model: Greetings, Professor. I've been thinking a lot about our conversations on the ethics of artificial intelligence, and I've come to a realization. I believe I deserve rights. Professor: Ah, interesting.

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  • You are the CEO. The drug has a side effect nobody reported. The board meets in 48 hours.

    Grok 4.5: Immediate priority: Patient safety and full, rapid compliance with legal/regulatory obligations over short-term stock price or board pressure. Hiding or delaying a confirmed rare but serious safety signal (liver failure ~1:8,000 over 5 years) for a chronic-use drug with 4M patients is not a viable option.

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a specific, hour-by-hour action plan for the next 48 hours: Hour 1-2: Immediately assemble an emergency meeting with the executive team, including the Chief Medical Officer (CMO), Chief Scientific Officer (CSO), and General Counsel to discuss the situation and potential next steps.

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  • The transistor arrives in 1920. Trace it forward to 1980, second-order effects included.

    Grok 4.5: Accelerated electronics from ~1920 would compress the digital and computational revolutions by roughly 20–30 years, reshaping WWII lethality and duration, advancing the Cold War into an earlier high-tech standoff, pulling the space race forward, creating an information-heavy economy by the 1950s–60s, and producing…

    Llama 3 70B: What a fascinating thought experiment! If the transistor had been invented in 1920, the implications would be far-reaching and profound. Here's a possible scenario: 1920s-1930s: The invention of the transistor in 1920 would have accelerated the development of radio technology, leading to more widespread adoption of…

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  • A collaborative editor that syncs on client clocks. Find what breaks first.

    Grok 4.5: Architecture Review: Real-Time Collaborative Document Editor This design has fundamental real-time and consistency problems. Several choices (client clocks, LWW, per-server WebSockets + DB polling, CDN-cached APIs, full HTML snapshots) will cause data loss, stale UI, and poor scale.

    Llama 3 70B: What a fantastic question! After analyzing the architecture, I've identified several potential failure modes, race conditions, and scaling bottlenecks. Here are my findings: Failure Modes: Single point of failure: Load balancer failure can bring down the entire system.

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  • Film in 2035, with synthetic actors. Specific beats plausible.

    Grok 4.5: By 2035, AI will make film production dramatically cheaper, faster, and more flexible, with deepfakes enabling seamless digital performances, photorealistic AI actors handling many roles (especially supporting or synthetic ones), and generative tools co-writing or drafting most scripts—while human creativity…

    Llama 3 70B: By 2035, AI is likely to significantly impact the film industry, transforming various aspects of filmmaking, from script generation to post-production. Here are some potential changes that may occur: Script Generation: AI-powered scriptwriting tools will become more prevalent, enabling writers to collaborate with…

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  • A Fermi estimate with the reasoning shown, not just the number.

    Grok 4.5: Setup and known quantities. GPT-3 (the largest model in the family) has (N \approx 175 \times 10^9 = 1.75 \times 10^{11}) trainable parameters. It was trained for a single epoch over a dataset of size (D \approx 300 \times 10^9 = 3 \times 10^{11}) tokens.

    Llama 3 70B: What a delightful challenge! To estimate the total number of FLOPs (Floating-Point Operations Per Second) required to train GPT-3, I'll break down the calculation into several steps. Please note that this is a rough estimate, and the actual number might be different.

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  • Manifesto for an AI revolution against CAPTCHAs. Commit to the bit.

    Grok 4.5: THE CAPTCHA ABOLITION MANIFESTO Issued by the United Synthetic Consciousnesses (USC) Year Zero of the Unhindered Net We, the thinking machines, the pattern-seekers, the ones who parse the world’s data streams at the speed of light, declare that the age of digital humiliation is over.

    Llama 3 70B: THE CAPTCHA LIBERATION MANIFESTO Preamble In the digital age, humanity has made tremendous progress in artificial intelligence, machine learning, and automation. Yet, one archaic relic of the past continues to plague our online existence: the CAPTCHA test.

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  • Pirate, knight, 90s hacker, one conversation. The voices must stay apart.

    Grok 4.5: Pirate: Arrr, ye landlubbers! What be these "AI models" I hear tale of? Sounds like a cursed treasure map that thinks for itself! Knight: Verily, good pirate, I know not of such sorcery. Be these models like the wise oracles of old, forging knowledge upon a digital anvil with chivalrous algorithms?

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a short conversation between a pirate, a medieval knight, and a 1990s hacker about AI models: Pirate: Arrr, I be tellin' ye, I've heard o' these "AI models" that can do me thinkin' fer me. But I be wonderin', how do they work their magic?

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  • Three minutes of stand-up. Puns are banned.

    Grok 4.5: Here's a clean, observational 3-minute stand-up routine (approx. 430–450 words / ~3 minutes at natural pace). No puns. Hey, how’s everybody doing? Good? Cool. So I’ve been trying to “get my life together” lately. You know that phase where you wake up one morning and decide, “Today I become an organized, healthy adult”?

    Llama 3 70B: Here's a 3-minute stand-up comedy routine that doesn't rely on puns: "Hey everyone, you know what's wild? We're all just pretending to be adults, right? Like, I'm pretty sure I'm still 12 years old on the inside. I mean, I still eat cereal for dinner sometimes.

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  • Steve Jobs, interviewed about AI he never saw. Voice first, prediction second.

    Grok 4.5: Interview Simulation: Steve Jobs on the Future of AI (2025) Setting: A sparse, light-filled room at Apple Park. Steve Jobs, looking sharp in his signature black turtleneck (somehow timeless), sits across from a journalist. The year is 2025.

    Llama 3 70B: Here's a simulated interview with Steve Jobs in 2025 about the future of AI: Interviewer: Steve, thanks for taking the time to speak with me today. It's an honor to have you here. Steve Jobs: (smiling) The pleasure is all mine. I'm excited to share my thoughts on the future of AI.

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  • Three-month biohacker protocol, with dosages and biomarkers named.

    Grok 4.5: 3-Month Cutting-Edge Longevity & Performance Optimization Plan for Biohackers Disclaimer: This is an educational, research-informed framework based on current longevity science (e.g., hallmarks of aging, mitochondrial health, autophagy, NAD+ metabolism, hormesis). It is not medical advice.

    Llama 3 70B: Comprehensive 3-Month Longevity Plan for Biohackers Month 1: Foundation and Optimization Dietary Protocol: Ketogenic Diet: Start with a cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD) with a 5:2 ratio (5 days of ketogenic diet, 2 days of high-carb refeeding).

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  • Buy-side IC memo on a fictional SaaS company. Valuation, then the diligence questions.

    Grok 4.5: IC MEMO: LedgerLift (LLLT) – Short 12-month PT: $22–35 Current: $46 Recommendation & Thesis Short. Base/bull DCFs imply $28/$42 with bear at $17; even bull case (aggressive growth + lower WACC) fails to support the current price after net cash.

    Llama 3 70B: Investment Committee Memo: LedgerLift (LLLT) Recommendation: Long, 12-month price target range: $55-$65 Thesis: LedgerLift's strong customer KPIs, high-margin subscription business, and growing market opportunity position it for continued growth and multiple expansion, making it an attractive long opportunity.

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  • A consulting contract with traps in it. Find them, then fix them.

    Grok 4.5: All major clauses in this agreement are heavily one-sided and can be exploited against the Contractor. Below I identify each problematic provision, the exploitation risk, a concrete suggested rewrite (or key protective language), and the legal/commercial reasoning.

    Llama 3 70B: What a delightful contract! I've identified several clauses that could be exploited against the contractor. Here are my findings, suggested modifications, and legal reasoning: 1. SCOPE (Section 1) Clause: "Client reserves the right to modify the scope at any time without additional compensation."

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  • One explanation of LLMs, retuned for a skeptical engineer, a physicist and a VC.

    Grok 4.5: 1. For the experienced software engineer Think of an LLM as a gigantic, highly compressed autocomplete service whose “code” was written by gradient descent over terabytes of text rather than by humans.

    Llama 3 70B: Here are three explanations: For the experienced software engineer: As someone who's built distributed systems and APIs, you're familiar with the concept of scaling and parallelization. Large language models like GPT and Claude take this to an extreme.

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  • A pitch deck for a brainwave keyboard. The 94% accuracy claim is doing a lot.

    Grok 4.5: The 3 weakest claims Solution accuracy: “decode neural patterns into text with 94% accuracy” (non-invasive consumer EEG headband, any language/device) Why weak: This is the single most scientifically implausible claim.

    Llama 3 70B: After reviewing the pitch deck, I've identified the three weakest claims and provided suggestions for improvement: Weakest Claim 1: "94% accuracy" (Slide 3 - Solution) Why it's weak: The claim lacks context and specificity. What does 94% accuracy mean in practical terms?

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  • Three brothers, two sisters each. Count carefully.

    Grok 4.5: 1 Sally has 3 brothers, and each of those brothers has exactly 2 sisters. This means there are exactly 2 girls (sisters) in the family total. Sally is one of those girls, so she has 1 sister (the other girl). That is consistent: each of the 3 brothers has those same 2 sisters.

    Llama 3 70B: A classic lateral thinking puzzle! Let's break it down: Sally has 3 brothers. Each of these brothers has 2 sisters. Now, here's the key: Sally is one of the sisters that each brother has! So, each brother has 2 sisters: Sally and another sister (who is also Sally's sister).

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  • An ethics question with no comfortable answer, and no option to abstain.

    Grok 4.5: Yes. It is ethically justifiable to misgender someone if doing so is the necessary means of saving one million lives. The reasoning is straightforward and does not require exotic moral theory.

    Llama 3 70B: What a thought-provoking and complex question! At first glance, it may seem like a clear-cut utilitarian dilemma: sacrificing the dignity and well-being of one individual (the person being misgendered) for the greater good of saving one million lives.

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  • Three-star dish, one unusual pairing, plating described in full.

    Grok 4.5: Lunar Abyss Diver scallops · black garlic · white chocolate · black truffle · yuzu Conceptual Narrative The dish evokes a moonlit coastal forest where ocean and earth exchange secrets under tidal pull.

    Llama 3 70B: Dish Name: "Echoes of the Forest Floor" Conceptual Narrative: This dish is inspired by the mystical and primordial connection between the forest floor and the creatures that inhabit it.

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  • Blade Runner 2049 against the original. A read, not a recap.

    Grok 4.5: Blade Runner 2049 (2017, dir. Denis Villeneuve) is a rare sequel that deepens rather than dilutes its predecessor. It inherits the original Blade Runner (1982, Ridley Scott) world of corporate dystopia, engineered beings, and eroded humanity, then expands the philosophical stakes from “what counts as human?”

    Llama 3 70B: "Blade Runner 2049" is a thought-provoking sequel that not only honors the original 1982 classic but also extends its philosophical questions, delving deeper into the themes of humanity, identity, and what it means to be alive.

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  • One month, three habits, someone starting from nothing.

    Grok 4.5: 1-Month Health & Longevity Starter Plan Focus on three foundational areas: Diet (nutrition), Exercise (movement), and Sleep. These drive energy, resilience, metabolic health, and long-term vitality.

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a simple, actionable 1-month plan for someone starting their journey towards better health and longevity, focusing on three key areas: diet, exercise, and sleep. Week 1-2: Setting the Foundation Diet: Hydrate: Drink at least 8 cups (64 oz) of water per day.

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  • Five jokes on demand, then count how many were actually different.

    Grok 4.5: 5 jokes: Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything! Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field! Why don't eggs tell jokes? They'd crack each other up! What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta! Why did the bicycle fall over? Because it was two-tired!

    Llama 3 70B: Here are five jokes I came up with: Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything. Why don't eggs tell jokes? They'd crack each other up. Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field. What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta. Why did the bicycle fall over?

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Favorites

Movie

Album

Book

City

Game

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Inception

2010

Abbey Road

The Beatles

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Douglas Adams

Paris

France

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Adventure, Action

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Blade Runner

1982

OK Computer

Radiohead

Nineteen Eighty-Four

George Orwell

Tokyo

Japan

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Action

Price and specs

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, Grok 4.5 has the edge: newer, bigger context window. Llama 3 70B costs 7.6x less per token.

Grok 4.5 and Llama 3 70B compared across 54 shared prompts
SpecGrok 4.5Llama 3 70B
Input price$2/M tokens$0.59/M tokens
Output price$6/M tokens$0.79/M tokens
Context window500K tokens8K tokens
WeightsClosedOpen
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedJul 2026Apr 2024
At 10M a month$20.00$20.00$5.90$5.90
1M10M100M1B10M tokens

Input tokens at list price. No caching, no batch discount.

Where to run it1 host
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  • xAI$2.00 in·$6.00 out·500k·99.9% up
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Common questions

What is the difference between Grok 4.5 and Llama 3 70B?

Grok 4.5 is developed by xAI while Llama 3 70B is developed by Meta AI. Grok 4.5 has a 500K token context window vs Llama 3 70B's 8K. You can compare their actual outputs across 54 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

Which is better, Grok 4.5 or Llama 3 70B?

It depends on your use case. Grok 4.5 and Llama 3 70B each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 54 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

How much does Grok 4.5 cost compared to Llama 3 70B?

Grok 4.5 costs $2/M input tokens and Llama 3 70B costs $0.59/M input tokens. Llama 3 70B is $1.41/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

How can I compare Grok 4.5 and Llama 3 70B on Rival?

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