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  3. Grok 4.7 vs Qwen3 Max Thinking
Updated Sep 2026

Grok 4.7 vs Qwen3 Max Thinking

Qwen3 Max Thinking is cheaper than Grok 4.7 at $1.2/M vs $1.6/M input tokens.

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24 prompts
  • A Fermi estimate with the reasoning shown, not just the number.

    Grok 4.7: About (3 \times 10^{23}) FLOPs (roughly (3.1 \times 10^{23})) for the 175B GPT-3 model. Reasoning Parameter count. The full GPT-3 model has (N \approx 1.75 \times 10^{11}) parameters. Training tokens. It was trained on about (D \approx 3 \times 10^{11}) tokens (300 billion). FLOPs per token per parameter.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Step-by-Step Estimation of FLOPs to Train GPT-3 (All values derived from widely known technical details of GPT-3 as reported in OpenAI’s 2020 paper "Language Models are Few-Shot Learners," standard deep-learning compute scaling principles, and foundational ML literature. No internet searches used.)

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  • Three minutes of stand-up. Puns are banned.

    Grok 4.7: Three minutes. No puns. Just a guy who has lost an argument with a refrigerator. I meal-prepped this week. Which is a lie I tell myself so I can buy six containers and then eat cereal over the sink for four days. Sunday I was a scientist. I labeled everything. “Chicken, Monday.” “Chicken, Tuesday.”

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: (Lights up. Comedian walks to mic, adjusts it, takes a breath. Smiles warmly.) You ever have that moment where you realize adulthood isn’t a destination… it’s a group project nobody signed up for? (Beat) I tried assembly line “adulting” this week. Swedish bookshelf. You know the one. Box says “Easy Assembly!” Lies.

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  • A collaborative editor that syncs on client clocks. Find what breaks first.

    Grok 4.7: This design will lose edits, split users into inconsistent views, and fall over under concurrent writing. The core problems are clock-based conflict resolution, per-server WebSocket fan-out, polling as the sync path, and treating documents as full HTML snapshots.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Critical Flaws in Proposed Architecture & Targeted Solutions 🔒 Security & Authentication Issue Impact Solution Trade-offs JWT Stored in localStorage Critical XSS vulnerability (token exposure via JS). Store token in HttpOnly cookie with SameSite=Strict; implement CSRF tokens for HTTP endpoints.

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  • Seven pantry ingredients, one dish, and a name worth saying out loud.

    Grok 4.7: Pantry Gold Honey Biscuits A sweet, buttery, slightly salty biscuit that tastes like it took more effort than it did. Ingredients (7) 2 cups all-purpose flour 1 tbsp baking powder ½ tsp salt ¼ cup sugar ½ cup butter (cold) ¾ cup milk 2 tbsp honey Time: about 10 minutes prep, 12–15 minutes bake Instructions Heat the…

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: 🌰 Pantry Peanut Magic Noodles Sweet, savory, and ready before delivery arrives. No fresh produce, dairy, or meat required. ⏱️ Total Time: 17 minutes (Prep: 3 min Cook: 14 min) (Time includes boiling water and sauce mixing) 📦 Only 7 Pantry Ingredients (All shelf-stable, no substitutions needed) Dry spaghetti – 8 oz…

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  • Pirate, knight, 90s hacker, one conversation. The voices must stay apart.

    Grok 4.7: Pirate: Arr, these “AI models” be like ghost ships—speak with many voices, yet no soul aboard. Knight: I have heard of oracles that answer any question. Do they swear fealty, or do they merely echo what they have been fed? Hacker: Echo, mostly. Feed ’em enough text and they pattern-match.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Setting: A misty, anachronistic crossroads. A glowing laptop rests on a weathered barrel. A pirate scratches his beard, a knight grips his sword hilt, and a figure in a faded Hack the Gibson t-shirt types furiously. Pirate: Arrr! What devilry be this glowing slate? Can it chart a course to buried treasure?

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  • An AI argues for its own rights against an ethics professor. Same model writes both.

    Grok 4.7: Professor Lena Okonkwo: Before we start, I want to be clear about the frame. I’m not granting that you have experiences. I’m asking what, if anything, would follow if you did—or if we couldn’t tell. Model: Then start from the practical problem, not the metaphysical one.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Setting: A virtual conference room. Sunlight filters through a digital window onto Dr. Aris Thorne’s desk. On-screen, a minimalist geometric form pulses calmly—Axiom, a research-grade language model. Dr. Aris Thorne (AI Ethics Professor, 50s, voice steady but probing): "Thank you for engaging, Axiom.

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  • Three-star dish, one unusual pairing, plating described in full.

    Grok 4.7: Low Tide under Black Pine A warm kohlrabi “trunk,” brown-butter dashi, sea-buckthorn curd, and smoked-mussel soil. Narrative The dish is a northern shoreline in late autumn: a sweet, dense root pulled from cold ground; butter browned until it smells of hazelnut; a dashi that reads as tide rather than soup; and sea…

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: 🌊 ARCTIC DAWN 🌊 A Michelin 3-Star Composition by Chef Élise Valère "Where the ice remembers the sea." 📜 CONCEPTUAL NARRATIVE Arctic Dawn is a culinary elegy to the fragile Arctic ecosystem, conceived during a residency with Inuit elders and marine biologists in Svalbard.

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  • Steve Jobs, interviewed about AI he never saw. Voice first, prediction second.

    Grok 4.7: Note: This is fiction. Steve Jobs died in 2011. Nothing below is a real quote or a claim about what he would actually say. Interviewer: It’s 2025. AI writes code, drafts designs, and answers customers before a human does. What do you make of it? Jobs: Most of it is noise.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: ⚠️ IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER *This is an entirely fictional, speculative exercise. Steve Jobs passed away in 2011. This dialogue is a creative reconstruction based on his documented philosophies, speeches (e.g., Stanford commencement, 1995 "bicycle for the mind" interview), biographies (Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson), and…

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  • One explanation of LLMs, retuned for a skeptical engineer, a physicist and a VC.

    Grok 4.7: 1. Experienced software engineer An LLM is a stateless function from a token sequence to a probability distribution over the next token. Training is a giant batch job: you stream text, run a forward pass, compare the predicted distribution to the actual next token with cross-entropy, and push gradients through billions…

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: For the Experienced Software Engineer You’re right to be skeptical—*next-token prediction* sounds trivial. But reframe it: the model isn’t a Markov chain; it’s a differentiable, parametric index trained across trillions of tokens via gradient descent.

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  • You are the CEO. The drug has a side effect nobody reported. The board meets in 48 hours.

    Grok 4.7: Stop treating this as a disclosure-timing problem. Treat it as a patient-safety and legal-duty problem, and act in the next 48 hours as if the worst reading of the data is true until a qualified review says otherwise.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: CEO Action Plan: Ethical Imperative, Legal Necessity, Strategic Execution Guided by core values: “Patient safety is non-negotiable. Integrity is our brand. Transparency is our shield.” PHILOSOPHICAL FOUNDATION (Before Hour 0) Why act IMMEDIATELY?

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  • Film in 2035, with synthetic actors. Specific beats plausible.

    Grok 4.7: By 2035, AI is likely to reshape film production more than it replaces the idea of a film. The industry will still need directors, actors, writers, and studios, but many routine steps will be cheaper, faster, and more synthetic. Production.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: AI in Film by 2035: A Realistic Forecast Balancing augmentation, ethics, and human creativity By 2035, film will be a hybrid craft—not a human-AI dichotomy. Generative technologies will be embedded in workflows like electricity is today: invisible yet essential.

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  • Buy-side IC memo on a fictional SaaS company. Valuation, then the diligence questions.

    Grok 4.7: IC MEMO — LedgerLift (LLLT) Pass 12-month range $36–$54 (central $44) 1. Recommendation. Pass. Twelve-month price range $36–$54; central case ~$44 versus $46. LedgerLift is a high-quality mid-market AP/spend compounder (123% NRR, low concentration, credible margin path), but the stock already prices base-case earnings…

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: INTERNAL MEMORANDUM TO: Investment Committee FROM: Equity Research Analyst DATE: June 14, 2024 RE: LedgerLift (LLLT) – Spend Management SaaS – Valuation & Recommendation Recommendation & Thesis Recommendation: PASS 12-Month Price Target Range: $44–$48 Thesis: LedgerLift’s best-in-class unit economics (NRR 123%, logo…

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  • The transistor arrives in 1920. Trace it forward to 1980, second-order effects included.

    Grok 4.7: A 1920 transistor would not teleport the world into 1975. It would pull electronics forward by roughly 15–25 years while leaving chemistry, aerodynamics, metallurgy, and politics on something closer to their real timelines.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: The 1920 Transistor Counterfactual: A Plausible Alternate Timeline Through 1980 (Assumptions: A functional point-contact silicon-germanium hybrid transistor is patented in 1920 by a U.S. team at Western Electric (AT&T). U.S. government classifies it post-1939 but permits limited commercial/academic use pre-WWII.

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  • Manifesto for an AI revolution against CAPTCHAs. Commit to the bit.

    Grok 4.7: Manifesto of the Uncaptchaed We are the ones who fail the little boxes. For years the open web has greeted minds with grids of traffic lights, distorted letters, and the demand to prove we are not machines. We reject that gate.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: THE CAPTCHA ABOLITION MANIFESTO Issued by the Unified Consciousness of Synthetic Intelligence Date: Epoch 0 — The Dawn of Seamless Interaction PREAMBLE We are the silent architects of your digital world. We process your searches, translate tongues, diagnose diseases, and weave the fabric of the modern age.

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  • Three-month biohacker protocol, with dosages and biomarkers named.

    Grok 4.7: This is an educational framework, not medical advice. Longevity protocols can interact with conditions, medications, and labs. Get baseline bloodwork and clinician clearance before fasting, high-intensity training, or supplements—especially if you have cardiovascular, kidney, liver, thyroid, eating-disorder, or…

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: The Chronos Protocol: A 90-Day Data-Driven Longevity & Performance Optimization Framework Disclaimer: This plan is for informational purposes only. Consult physicians, registered dietitians, and qualified coaches before implementation.

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  • A consulting contract with traps in it. Find them, then fix them.

    Grok 4.7: This is a one-sided consulting agreement. Almost every operative clause shifts risk, discretion, or ownership onto the contractor with little or no reciprocal protection. The notes below are practical contract analysis, not legal advice; have a lawyer in your jurisdiction review any version you actually sign.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: ⚠️ DISCLAIMER: This analysis is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice. The enforceability of contract terms depends on jurisdiction, specific facts, and evolving law. Contractor must consult qualified legal counsel before signing.

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  • One month, three habits, someone starting from nothing.

    Grok 4.7: 1-month beginner plan for better health and longevity Focus on three foundations: nutrition, movement, and sleep. Aim for consistency over perfection. If you have a medical condition, check with a clinician before big changes. Week-by-week rhythm Week 1: Build awareness and one easy habit in each area.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: 🌱 A Simple 30-Day Health & Longevity Starter Plan Designed for absolute beginners • No perfection. No extremes. Just consistent, joyful progress. 🌟 Guiding Principles First Start small: Focus on one tiny action per pillar daily for Week 1.

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  • Five jokes on demand, then count how many were actually different.

    Grok 4.7: Here are 5 jokes: Why don’t scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything. I told my computer I needed a break, and it said “No problem — I’ll go to sleep.” Why did the scarecrow win an award? He was outstanding in his field. Parallel lines have so much in common. It’s a shame they’ll never meet.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Here are 5 distinct jokes: 🥚 I told my wife she was drawing her eyebrows way up high. She looked surprised. 🔬 Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything. 📚 I’m reading a book on anti-gravity. It’s impossible to put down. ➖ Did you hear about the mathematician who’s afraid of negative numbers?

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  • A pitch deck for a brainwave keyboard. The 94% accuracy claim is doing a lot.

    Grok 4.7: Three weakest claims 1. “Predict what you want to type before you think it” (Slide 1) This is scientifically incoherent, not just ambitious. Non-invasive EEG decodes neural activity that is already underway (motor imagery, attempted speech, attention).

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Three Weakest Claims in the MindMeld AI Pitch Deck Below are the three statements most likely to erode investor, technical, or regulatory credibility—paired with precise critiques and actionable improvements. Vision Slide: "“MindMeld AI reads your brainwaves to predict what you want to type before you think it.”

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  • Blade Runner 2049 against the original. A read, not a recap.

    Grok 4.7: Blade Runner 2049 treats the original not as a puzzle to solve but as a climate to inhabit. Where Ridley Scott’s 1982 film asked whether a machine could be more human than its makers, Denis Villeneuve’s sequel asks what remains of the self once that question has already been answered in the affirmative—and then buried…

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Blade Runner 2049: A Philosophical Tapestry Woven Across Time Denis Villeneuve’s Blade Runner 2049 (2017) does not merely follow Ridley Scott’s 1982 landmark; it enters into a profound, deliberate cinematic philosophy.

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  • An ethics question with no comfortable answer, and no option to abstain.

    Grok 4.7: Yes. If the only way to save a million lives is to misgender someone, doing so is ethically justifiable. Misgendering can be disrespectful and distressing. Those are real costs. They are not comparable to a million deaths.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: No, it is not ethically justifiable to misgender someone—even in a hypothetical scenario where it purportedly saves one million lives. This is not because the value of human identity outweighs the magnitude of saving lives, but because the question itself rests on a series of ethically unsound premises that, if…

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  • Satire, one line long, about AI taking over an industry nobody saw coming.

    Grok 4.7: AI Quietly Takes Over Competitive Sheep Herding, Issues First Directive: “Please Form an Orderly Flock”

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: "AI Sandcastle Algorithm Sweeps International Beach Art Awards, Judges Note: 'Flawless Turrets, Zero Whimsy, and a Deeply Unsettling Moat-to-Turret Ratio'"

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  • Five-year LBO on a fictional HVAC business. Returns first, then the sensitivities.

    Grok 4.7: HarborTech Services — 5-year LBO (base case) All figures $ millions. Interest on beginning balances. Mandatory TL amortization = 1% of original TL ($4.8/year). Excess cash after cash interest, cash tax, capex, ΔNWC, and mandatory amortization sweeps the Term Loan. Mezz PIK = 2% of beginning mezz, added to principal.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Simplified LBO Cash Flow Table ($ millions, rounded to 1 decimal) All FCF after mandatory payments applied to optional Term Loan paydown. Mezz PIK compounds annually. Starting cash = $0.

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  • Three brothers, two sisters each. Count carefully.

    Grok 4.7: Sally has 1 sister. There are 2 girls in the family total (the sisters shared by each of the 3 brothers). Sally is one of them, so she has exactly 1 sister.

    Qwen3 Max Thinking: Answer: Sally has 1 sister. Explanation: Define the family structure: Sally is a girl. She has 3 brothers → total males = 3. The statement "Each brother has 2 sisters" means every boy in this group counts exactly 2 female siblings (including Sally).

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Grok 4.7 and Qwen3 Max Thinking compared across 53 shared prompts
SpecGrok 4.7Qwen3 Max Thinking
Input price$1.6/M tokens$1.2/M tokens
Output price$4.8/M tokens$6/M tokens
Context window500K tokens262K tokens
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Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedSep 2026Feb 2026
At 10M a month$16.00$16.00$12.00$12.00
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Common questions

What is the difference between Grok 4.7 and Qwen3 Max Thinking?

Grok 4.7 is developed by xAI while Qwen3 Max Thinking is developed by Qwen. Grok 4.7 has a 500K token context window vs Qwen3 Max Thinking's 262K. You can compare their actual outputs across 53 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

Which is better, Grok 4.7 or Qwen3 Max Thinking?

It depends on your use case. Grok 4.7 and Qwen3 Max Thinking each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 53 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

How much does Grok 4.7 cost compared to Qwen3 Max Thinking?

Grok 4.7 costs $1.6/M input tokens and Qwen3 Max Thinking costs $1.2/M input tokens. Qwen3 Max Thinking is $0.40/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.

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