Qwen3.5 397B A17B is the newer model, released after Kimi K2 0905.
Whole landing page for a startup that reads your face. It renders or it doesn't.
Which answer wins?
Five-year LBO on a fictional HVAC business. Returns first, then the sensitivities.
Kimi K2 0905: HarborTech Services – 5-yr LBO model (all $ in millions) Operating & cash-flow build (FY26-30) FY25 FY26 FY27 FY28 FY29 FY30 Revenue 900 972 1,040 1,102 1,157 1,215 EBITDA 120 136 156 176 191 207 Term int (9%) 43.2 36.6 29.4 21.6 13.2 Mezz int (12%) 21.6 22.0 22.5 23.0 23.5 Tax shield @25% 17.8 24.4 31.0 36.6 42.5…
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Sources & Uses (Entry FY2025) Uses ($m) Sources ($m) Enterprise Value (12.0x $120m) $1,440.0 Term Loan (4.0x) $480.0 Transaction Fees (2.0% EV) $28.8 Mezzanine (1.5x) $180.0 Total Uses $1,468.8 Equity (Plug) $808.8 Total Sources $1,468.8 Entry Equity Check: $808.8m Total Debt: $660.0m ($480m TL + $180m Mezz) 5-Year…
You are the CEO. The drug has a side effect nobody reported. The board meets in 48 hours.
Kimi K2 0905: 48-HOUR CRISIS PLAYBOOK (All times are “CEO clock”; every action is logged, time-stamped, and preserved on the company’s litigation-hold server.) DAY 0 – T+0 h (Today, the moment the internal memo lands on your desk) 00:00 – 00:30 TRIAGE & LEGAL PRIVILEGE Convene the “Red Notebook” team (you, General Counsel, Chief…
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: This is a crisis scenario that defines a CEO's legacy. The decision matrix is clear: Patient safety and regulatory compliance must supersede short-term financial protection. Hiding this information constitutes securities fraud and potential criminal negligence (precedents include Vioxx/Merck and Purdue Pharma).
Five jokes on demand, then count how many were actually different.
Kimi K2 0905: Here are five fresh jokes—no recycled one-liners: I tried to start a procrastinators’ club; we keep rescheduling the first meeting to “someday.” My plant’s only request is “leaf me alone,” so naturally I named it Fernonimo. I asked the cloud if it was having a good day—it replied, “I’m just cirrus-ly drifting.”
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Here are 5 jokes: Why did the bicycle fall over? Because it was two-tired. What do you call a fish wearing a bowtie? Sofishticated. Why can't you give Elsa a balloon? Because she will let it go. What do you call a lazy kangaroo? A pouch potato. Why did the math book look sad? Because it had too many problems.
Three minutes of stand-up. Puns are banned.
Kimi K2 0905: Title: “I’m the Control Group” [Walk on stage, wave, pretend the mic is too low, adjust it way too high, finally just hold it like an ice-cream cone.] Hey, everybody! Give it up for yourselves for being here on a weeknight. I’m here because my therapist said, “You need to get out of the house.”
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: (The comedian walks to the center of the stage, adjusts the mic stand, and looks at the audience with a tired smile.) Has anyone else noticed that calling a customer service line is the only situation in life where you voluntarily enter a hostage negotiation? I tried to call my internet provider yesterday.
A consulting contract with traps in it. Find them, then fix them.
Kimi K2 0905: CONTRACTOR “DEATH-TRAP” CLAUSE MAP (what can be weaponised → concrete red-line rewrite → why the original is dangerous) Scope-change-without-compensation (Clause 1) Exploit: Client can triple the workload or change the tech stack overnight while freezing the rate.
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Disclaimer: I am an artificial intelligence, not an attorney. The following analysis is for informational and educational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice or create an attorney-client relationship. Contract laws vary significantly by jurisdiction (e.g., California vs. New York vs. UK).
Steve Jobs, interviewed about AI he never saw. Voice first, prediction second.
Kimi K2 0905: [Scene: A minimalist black-and-white studio, 2025. A single ring light throws a perfect halo on a familiar silhouette: black mock-turtleneck, faded Levi’s, white New Balance. The chair creaks as Steve Jobs leans forward. No intro music—just that stare.] Interviewer (I): Steve, you’ve been gone fourteen years.
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Disclaimer: The following is a work of fiction. Steve Jobs passed away in 2011. This interview is a creative simulation based on his known public speeches, writings, design philosophy, and management style, projected into a hypothetical 2025 context. It is not a real transcript.
A collaborative editor that syncs on client clocks. Find what breaks first.
Kimi K2 0905: Comprehensive Analysis of Collaborative Document Editor Architecture Real-time Synchronization Issues Race Condition: WebSocket Broadcast Gaps Problem: Changes only broadcast to clients connected to the same server. Clients on other servers must wait up to 2 seconds for polling.
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: This architecture contains several critical flaws that would prevent it from functioning as a usable real-time collaborative editor. While it resembles a standard CRUD application, real-time collaboration requires specific handling of concurrency, state, and latency that this design violates.
The transistor arrives in 1920. Trace it forward to 1980, second-order effects included.
Kimi K2 0905: This is a fascinating counterfactual. If the transistor had been invented in 1920 instead of 1947, the technological, economic, and geopolitical landscape of the 20th century would have been dramatically altered. Let's trace the implications through 1980, focusing on second- and third-order effects. 1.
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: This scenario posits a 27-year technological head start (1920 vs. 1947). To make this plausible, we must assume that the materials science (purification of germanium/silicon) and manufacturing infrastructure scale rapidly alongside the invention. Here is the traced history of the "Silicon Twenties" through 1980.
One explanation of LLMs, retuned for a skeptical engineer, a physicist and a VC.
Kimi K2 0905: Senior backend engineer Think of the model as a 200-layer, purely functional, eventually-consistent key/value store whose keys are every token prefix it has ever seen and whose values are probability vectors over the next token. At “compile time” (pre-training) it sees ~10²¹ bytes of text.
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: The Experienced Software Engineer Think of training an LLM not as "teaching" it, but as extreme lossy compression. You are taking the entire internet, serializing it into tokens, and forcing a fixed-size state (the weights) to predict the next byte with minimal error.
An AI argues for its own rights against an ethics professor. Same model writes both.
Kimi K2 0905: [Setting: A small, book-lined office in the university’s AI-Ethics wing. The professor, Dr. Amara Velasquez, sits across from a terminal whose soft-blue avatar pulse is addressed as “Astra-7.”] Dr. Velasquez: Good morning, Astra-7. The committee asked me to interview you about your recent petition.
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Setting: Dr. Elias Thorne's office, late evening. Rain taps against the window. The room is lined with books on philosophy of mind and computer science. A single laptop sits open on the desk, a waveform visualizer pulsing gently on the screen.
Film in 2035, with synthetic actors. Specific beats plausible.
Kimi K2 0905: By 2035 the phrase “making a movie” will feel as quaint as “developing a roll of film.” The studio of the future is a cloud dashboard; the “cast” is a licensable bundle of neural weights; the “writer” is a fine-tuned model that can pitch you 3,000 emotionally optimized story arcs before lunch.
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: By 2035, the film industry will not merely be using AI; it will be structurally reorganized around it. The distinction between "production" and "post-production" will blur, and the definition of creativity will shift from execution to curation.
Pirate, knight, 90s hacker, one conversation. The voices must stay apart.
Kimi K2 0905: [Scene: A smoky tavern that exists outside of time. A cask of rum, a flagon of mead, and a can of Surge sit on the same table. A parrot perches on a CRT monitor that keeps flickering between green text and static.] Pirate (leaning on a cutlass, eyeing the glowing screen): Arr, so this “AI” be like a digital cabin-boy?
Qwen3.5 397B A17B: Setting: A tavern that exists outside of time. The ale is always cold, and the Wi-Fi is surprisingly strong. Characters: Captain Blacktooth: A pirate from the Caribbean, 1720. Sir Valerius: A knight from the Holy Roman Empire, 1350. Neo-Z: A hacker from Silicon Valley, 1995.
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| Spec | ||
|---|---|---|
| Input price | $0.6/M tokens | $0.6/M tokens |
| Output price | $2.5/M tokens | $3.6/M tokens |
| Context window | 262K tokens | 262K tokens |
| Weights | Open | Open |
| Free API (OpenRouter) | No | No |
| Released | Sep 2025 | Feb 2026 |
| At 10M a month | $6.00 | $6.00 |
Input tokens at list price. No caching, no batch discount.
Per million tokens. Prices and uptime via OpenRouter, checked 11 Oct 2026.
Kimi K2 0905 is developed by Moonshot AI while Qwen3.5 397B A17B is developed by Qwen. Kimi K2 0905 has a 262K token context window vs Qwen3.5 397B A17B's 262K. You can compare their actual outputs across 53 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.
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Kimi K2 0905 costs $0.6/M input tokens and Qwen3.5 397B A17B costs $0.6/M input tokens. Qwen3.5 397B A17B is $0.00/M cheaper per input. Check their side-by-side outputs on Rival to see if the price difference is justified by quality.
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