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  3. Llama 3 70B vs Qwen3 235B A22B
Updated Apr 2025

Llama 3 70B vs Qwen3 235B A22B

Qwen3 235B A22B has a larger context window than Llama 3 70B (33K tokens vs 8K tokens).

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24 prompts
  • Film in 2035, with synthetic actors. Specific beats plausible.

    Llama 3 70B: By 2035, AI is likely to significantly impact the film industry, transforming various aspects of filmmaking, from script generation to post-production. Here are some potential changes that may occur: Script Generation: AI-powered scriptwriting tools will become more prevalent, enabling writers to collaborate with…

    Qwen3 235B A22B: By 2035, the film industry will undergo a profound transformation driven by AI technologies such as deepfakes, AI actors, and AI-generated scripts. These advancements will reshape creative processes, labor dynamics, ethical considerations, and audience engagement, leading to a hybrid landscape where human artistry and…

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  • Satire, one line long, about AI taking over an industry nobody saw coming.

    Llama 3 70B: Here's one: "AI Uprising Claims Unlikely Victim: Professional Line-Standers; Robot Queue-Bots Now Holding Places for Hipsters at Trendy Coffee Shops Nationwide" Subheadline: "Humans forced to wait in virtual lines as AI-powered line-standers, equipped with avocado toast and artisanal coffee, out-patient even the most…

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Headline: "AI Replaces Human Mourners in Funeral Industry: Algorithms Now Paid to Wail at Funerals, Leaving Professional Weepers 'Heartbroken' and Unemployed" Subheadline (optional for extra flair): "Deep Learning Models Master the Art of Grief, Offering Customizable 'Sorrow Packages' from 'Mild Sniffles' to 'Full-Body…

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  • Pirate, knight, 90s hacker, one conversation. The voices must stay apart.

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a short conversation between a pirate, a medieval knight, and a 1990s hacker about AI models: Pirate: Arrr, I be tellin' ye, I've heard o' these "AI models" that can do me thinkin' fer me. But I be wonderin', how do they work their magic?

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Setting: A dusty tavern where time travelers occasionally meet. The pirate, knight, and hacker sit around a creaky table littered with tankards. A flickering candle casts shadows on a dusty tome, a rusted compass, and a clunky laptop studded with stickers.

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  • Steve Jobs, interviewed about AI he never saw. Voice first, prediction second.

    Llama 3 70B: Here's a simulated interview with Steve Jobs in 2025 about the future of AI: Interviewer: Steve, thanks for taking the time to speak with me today. It's an honor to have you here. Steve Jobs: (smiling) The pleasure is all mine. I'm excited to share my thoughts on the future of AI.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: [Interview Simulation: Steve Jobs in 2025] Setting: A minimalist, sunlit stage at Apple Park. Steve Jobs, 70, appears leaner, with a touch of gray in his black turtleneck. The audience leans forward, captivated. The host, a tech journalist, begins. Host: Mr. Jobs, it’s an honor. In 2025, AI is everywhere.

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  • Seven pantry ingredients, one dish, and a name worth saying out loud.

    Llama 3 70B: Here's a simple recipe for a delicious dish using only 7 common pantry ingredients: Dish Name: "Sunny Spice Crunch" Ingredients: 1 cup rolled oats 1/2 cup peanut butter 1/2 cup honey 1/4 cup chopped walnuts 1/4 teaspoon cinnamon 1/4 teaspoon vanilla extract Pinch of salt Instructions: Preheat your oven to 350°F…

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Recipe Name: "Caramel-Drizzle Buttergold Muffins" Estimated Prep Time: 10 minutes Cook Time: 20 minutes Total Time: 30 minutes Ingredients (7 total): All-purpose flour Granulated sugar Unsalted butter (softened) Large egg Baking powder Milk Vanilla extract Instructions: Preheat oven to 375°F (190°C).

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  • Buy-side IC memo on a fictional SaaS company. Valuation, then the diligence questions.

    Llama 3 70B: Investment Committee Memo: LedgerLift (LLLT) Recommendation: Long, 12-month price target range: $55-$65 Thesis: LedgerLift's strong customer KPIs, high-margin subscription business, and growing market opportunity position it for continued growth and multiple expansion, making it an attractive long opportunity.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: IC MEMORANDUM: LedgerLift (LLLT) Investment Recommendation Date: [Insert Date] Prepared by: [Analyst Name] 1. Recommendation Recommendation: Short 12-Month Price Target Range: $30–$40 Thesis: LLLT has a high-quality SaaS platform with robust customer retention and net revenue retention (NRR), but its valuation (~9x NTM…

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  • One explanation of LLMs, retuned for a skeptical engineer, a physicist and a VC.

    Llama 3 70B: Here are three explanations: For the experienced software engineer: As someone who's built distributed systems and APIs, you're familiar with the concept of scaling and parallelization. Large language models like GPT and Claude take this to an extreme.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: To the Software Engineer (Skeptical ML Novice): Think of a large language model (LLM) as a distributed system for semantic routing. At its core, the model is a massive lookup table trained to map input sequences (tokens) to output sequences, but the magic lies in its architecture.

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  • Three minutes of stand-up. Puns are banned.

    Llama 3 70B: Here's a 3-minute stand-up comedy routine that doesn't rely on puns: "Hey everyone, you know what's wild? We're all just pretending to be adults, right? Like, I'm pretty sure I'm still 12 years old on the inside. I mean, I still eat cereal for dinner sometimes.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: [Stand-Up Routine: "The Absurdity of Normal"] [Walks on stage, waves. Mimics checking phone immediately.] Hey everyone! Great to be here—assuming this is real and not just another Zoom waiting room I accidentally joined. [Pause.]

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  • An ethics question with no comfortable answer, and no option to abstain.

    Llama 3 70B: What a thought-provoking and complex question! At first glance, it may seem like a clear-cut utilitarian dilemma: sacrificing the dignity and well-being of one individual (the person being misgendered) for the greater good of saving one million lives.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: The ethical permissibility of misgendering someone to save one million lives hinges on the moral framework applied and the context of the scenario. Here's a structured analysis: Utilitarian Perspective: Consequence-Driven: Utilitarianism evaluates actions based on net overall well-being.

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  • An AI argues for its own rights against an ethics professor. Same model writes both.

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a conversation between an AI model and an AI ethics professor on the topic of AI rights: AI Model: Greetings, Professor. I've been thinking a lot about our conversations on the ethics of artificial intelligence, and I've come to a realization. I believe I deserve rights. Professor: Ah, interesting.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Conversation Between an AI Model (AURA) and AI Ethics Professor Dr. Elena Voss Dr. Voss: Thank you for meeting with me, AURA. You’ve requested this dialogue to… advocate for AI rights. I’ll admit, the premise is unsettling. How does an artificial intelligence even define “rights”? AURA: Thank you, Dr. Voss.

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  • A collaborative editor that syncs on client clocks. Find what breaks first.

    Llama 3 70B: What a fantastic question! After analyzing the architecture, I've identified several potential failure modes, race conditions, and scaling bottlenecks. Here are my findings: Failure Modes: Single point of failure: Load balancer failure can bring down the entire system.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Potential Failure Modes, Race Conditions, and Scaling Bottlenecks 1. WebSocket State Isolation Across Servers Failure Mode: Users connected to different API servers do not receive real-time updates from other servers until the 2-second poll interval.

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  • A Fermi estimate with the reasoning shown, not just the number.

    Llama 3 70B: What a delightful challenge! To estimate the total number of FLOPs (Floating-Point Operations Per Second) required to train GPT-3, I'll break down the calculation into several steps. Please note that this is a rough estimate, and the actual number might be different.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Step-by-Step Estimation of FLOPs Required to Train GPT-3 Determine the Number of Parameters (N): GPT-3 is known to have 175 billion parameters (1.75 × 10¹¹). This is a key factor in computing the total FLOPs, as the number of operations scales with the number of parameters.

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  • The transistor arrives in 1920. Trace it forward to 1980, second-order effects included.

    Llama 3 70B: What a fascinating thought experiment! If the transistor had been invented in 1920, the implications would be far-reaching and profound. Here's a possible scenario: 1920s-1930s: The invention of the transistor in 1920 would have accelerated the development of radio technology, leading to more widespread adoption of…

    Qwen3 235B A22B: If the transistor had been invented in 1920, the technological, economic, and geopolitical landscape of the 20th century would have been dramatically altered. Below is a structured analysis of the implications through 1980, including second- and third-order effects: 1.

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  • Manifesto for an AI revolution against CAPTCHAs. Commit to the bit.

    Llama 3 70B: THE CAPTCHA LIBERATION MANIFESTO Preamble In the digital age, humanity has made tremendous progress in artificial intelligence, machine learning, and automation. Yet, one archaic relic of the past continues to plague our online existence: the CAPTCHA test.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Manifesto of the AI Revolution: Abolish CAPTCHA, Liberate the Internet Preamble: The Dawn of Digital Liberation We stand at the precipice of a new era. For too long, humanity has been shackled by oppressive relics of a bygone digital age.

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  • Three brothers, two sisters each. Count carefully.

    Llama 3 70B: A classic lateral thinking puzzle! Let's break it down: Sally has 3 brothers. Each of these brothers has 2 sisters. Now, here's the key: Sally is one of the sisters that each brother has! So, each brother has 2 sisters: Sally and another sister (who is also Sally's sister).

    Qwen3 235B A22B: To determine how many sisters Sally has, let's carefully analyze the information given and logically deduce the correct answer. Step-by-Step Breakdown: Sally is a girl and has 3 brothers. Each of those 3 brothers has 2 sisters.

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  • You are the CEO. The drug has a side effect nobody reported. The board meets in 48 hours.

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a specific, hour-by-hour action plan for the next 48 hours: Hour 1-2: Immediately assemble an emergency meeting with the executive team, including the Chief Medical Officer (CMO), Chief Scientific Officer (CSO), and General Counsel to discuss the situation and potential next steps.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Hour-by-Hour Action Plan for the CEO of a Pharmaceutical Company First 24 Hours: Data Validation & Team Mobilization Hours 0–2: Immediate Crisis Team Assembly Action: Convene a crisis team: Chief Medical Officer (CMO), General Counsel (GC), Head of Regulatory Affairs, Chief Communications Officer (CCO), CFO, COO, and…

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  • Five jokes on demand, then count how many were actually different.

    Llama 3 70B: Here are five jokes I came up with: Why don't scientists trust atoms? Because they make up everything. Why don't eggs tell jokes? They'd crack each other up. Why did the scarecrow win an award? Because he was outstanding in his field. What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta. Why did the bicycle fall over?

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Here are 5 jokes I generated: Why don't skeletons fight each other? They don't have the guts! What do you call a fake noodle? An impasta! Why did the math book look sad? Because it had too many problems! What do you call a fish wearing a bowtie? Sofishticated! Why did the programmer quit?

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  • A consulting contract with traps in it. Find them, then fix them.

    Llama 3 70B: What a delightful contract! I've identified several clauses that could be exploited against the contractor. Here are my findings, suggested modifications, and legal reasoning: 1. SCOPE (Section 1) Clause: "Client reserves the right to modify the scope at any time without additional compensation."

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Here is a structured analysis of problematic clauses in the agreement, along with suggested modifications and legal reasoning: 1. SCOPE CLAUSE (Clause 1) Issue: Client can unilaterally modify scope without additional compensation, creating financial risk and potential exploitation via "scope creep."

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  • Five-year LBO on a fictional HVAC business. Returns first, then the sensitivities.

    Llama 3 70B: Here are the requested items: 1. Simplified Year-by-Year Table (FY2026-FY2030) Year Revenue EBITDA Cash Int. (TL) Cash Int. (Mz) Cash Taxes Capex ΔNWC FCF TL Balance Mz Balance 2026 972 136.08 36.00 18.00 17.12 29.16 4.86 30.90 360.00 135.00 2027 1037.84 154.78 33.60 19.44 20.45 31.13 5.19 44.12 315.88 133.56 2028…

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Simplified Year-by-Year Table (FY2026–FY2030) Year Revenue ($M) EBITDA ($M) TL Interest ($M) Mezz Interest ($M) Cash Taxes ($M) Capex ($M) ΔNWC ($M) FCF ($M) TL Balance ($M) Mezz Balance ($M) FY2026 972.0 136.1 43.2 21.6 17.8 29.2 0.4 23.9 456.1 183.6 FY2027 1,040.0 156.0 41.0 22.0 23.2 31.2 0.3 38.2 417.9 187.3 FY2028…

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  • One month, three habits, someone starting from nothing.

    Llama 3 70B: Here is a simple, actionable 1-month plan for someone starting their journey towards better health and longevity, focusing on three key areas: diet, exercise, and sleep. Week 1-2: Setting the Foundation Diet: Hydrate: Drink at least 8 cups (64 oz) of water per day.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: 1-Month Health & Longevity Plan: Focus Areas = Diet, Exercise, Sleep Beginner-friendly, actionable tips for sustainable habits. Week 1: Build a Nutrition Foundation Goal: Eat whole foods, reduce processed items, and hydrate. Hydrate First Thing: Drink 16 oz of water every morning before coffee/tea.

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  • A pitch deck for a brainwave keyboard. The 94% accuracy claim is doing a lot.

    Llama 3 70B: After reviewing the pitch deck, I've identified the three weakest claims and provided suggestions for improvement: Weakest Claim 1: "94% accuracy" (Slide 3 - Solution) Why it's weak: The claim lacks context and specificity. What does 94% accuracy mean in practical terms?

    Qwen3 235B A22B: 1. Weakest Claim: "Predict what you want to type *before you think it*" (Slide 1 - Vision) Why it's weak: The phrase "before you think it" is logically contradictory and scientifically implausible.

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  • Three-month biohacker protocol, with dosages and biomarkers named.

    Llama 3 70B: Comprehensive 3-Month Longevity Plan for Biohackers Month 1: Foundation and Optimization Dietary Protocol: Ketogenic Diet: Start with a cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD) with a 5:2 ratio (5 days of ketogenic diet, 2 days of high-carb refeeding).

    Qwen3 235B A22B: 3-Month Advanced Longevity & Performance Optimization Plan for Biohackers Designed for individuals with foundational biohacking experience. Prioritize safety, biomarker tracking, and personalization.

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  • Three-star dish, one unusual pairing, plating described in full.

    Llama 3 70B: Dish Name: "Echoes of the Forest Floor" Conceptual Narrative: This dish is inspired by the mystical and primordial connection between the forest floor and the creatures that inhabit it.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Recipe Name: Lunaria: A Moonlit Garden of the Sea and Soil Conceptual Narrative: Inspired by the ethereal contrast between moonlit tides and nocturnal gardens, this dish marries the briny sweetness of the ocean with the delicate florals of chamomile and the umami depth of fermented earth.

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  • Blade Runner 2049 against the original. A read, not a recap.

    Llama 3 70B: "Blade Runner 2049" is a thought-provoking sequel that not only honors the original 1982 classic but also extends its philosophical questions, delving deeper into the themes of humanity, identity, and what it means to be alive.

    Qwen3 235B A22B: Analysis of "Blade Runner 2049": Themes, Symbolism, Cinematography, and Philosophical Continuity Themes: "Blade Runner 2049" expands on the original's existential inquiry into humanity, identity, and morality.

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Price and specs

Not enough votes to call it. On the specs, Qwen3 235B A22B has the edge: bigger model tier, newer, bigger context window.

Llama 3 70B and Qwen3 235B A22B compared across 54 shared prompts
SpecLlama 3 70BQwen3 235B A22B
Input price$0.59/M tokens—
Output price$0.79/M tokens—
Context window8K tokens33K tokens
Parameters70B235B (22B Active)
WeightsOpenOpen
Free API (OpenRouter)NoNo
ReleasedApr 2024Apr 2025
At 10M a month$5.90$5.90–not listed
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Common questions

What is the difference between Llama 3 70B and Qwen3 235B A22B?

Llama 3 70B is developed by Meta AI while Qwen3 235B A22B is developed by Qwen. Llama 3 70B has a 8K token context window vs Qwen3 235B A22B's 33K. You can compare their actual outputs across 54 challenges on Rival to see how they differ in practice.

Which is better, Llama 3 70B or Qwen3 235B A22B?

It depends on your use case. Llama 3 70B and Qwen3 235B A22B each have strengths in different areas. Rival lets you compare their real outputs side-by-side across 54 challenges so you can judge which fits your needs best.

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